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Bracketology: Our final answer

Let’s put the bracket prediction down first, and then we’ll explain how we got there after that.

My predicted NCAA tournament bracket is as follows:

East Regional (Bridgeport, Conn.)
16 Air Force vs. 1 Yale
9 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 8 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester, N.H.)
13 New Hampshire vs. 4 Miami
11 Notre Dame vs. 6 Merrimack

Midwest Regional (Green Bay, Wis.)
15 Rensselaer vs. 2 North Dakota
10 Western Michigan vs. 7 Denver

West Regional (St. Louis)
14 Colorado College vs. 3 Boston College
12 Nebraska-Omaha vs. 5 Michigan

How did we get there?

Here is the top 16 of the current PairWise Rankings (PWR), and the other autobids that are not in the Top 16:

1 Yale
2 North Dakota
3 Boston College
4 Miami
5t Michigan
5t Merrimack
7 Denver
8 Union
9 Minnesota-Duluth
10 Western Michigan
11 Notre Dame
12 Nebraska-Omaha
13t New Hampshire
13t Colorado College
13t Rensselaer
16 Dartmouth
22 Air Force

Autobids:

Atlantic Hockey: Air Force
CCHA: Miami
ECAC Hockey: Yale
Hockey East: Boston College
WCHA: North Dakota

Step one

From the committee’s report, choose the 16 teams in the tournament.

We break ties in the PWR by looking at the individual comparisons among the tied teams, and add any autobids not in the top 16 of the PairWise. The only team that is not is Air Force.

We break all of our ties based upon the RPI.

Therefore the 16 teams in the tournament, in rank order, are:

1 Yale
2 North Dakota
3 Boston College
4 Miami
5 Michigan
6 Merrimack
7 Denver
8 Union
9 Minnesota-Duluth
10 Western Michigan
11 Notre Dame
12 Nebraska-Omaha
13 New Hampshire
14 Colorado College
15 Rensselaer
16 Air Force

Step two

Now it’s time to assign the seeds.

No. 1 seeds — Yale, North Dakota, Boston College, Miami

No. 2 seeds — Michigan, Merrimack, Denver, Union

No. 3 seeds — Minnesota-Duluth, Western Michigan, Notre Dame, Nebraska-Omaha

No. 4 seeds — New Hampshire, Colorado College, Rensselaer, Air Force

Step three

Place the No. 1 seeds in regionals. Following the guidelines, there is one host team in this grouping, Yale, so Yale must be placed in its home regional, the East Regional in Bridgeport.

We now place the other No. 1 seeds based on proximity to the regional sites.

No. 1 Yale is placed in the East Regional in Bridgeport.

No. 2 North Dakota is placed in the Midwest Regional in Green Bay.

No. 3 Boston College is placed in the Northeast Regional in Manchester.

No. 4 Miami is placed in the West Regional in St. Louis.

Step Four

Now we place the other 12 teams so as to avoid intra-conference matchups if possible.

Begin by filling in each bracket by banding groups. Remember that teams are not assigned to the regional closest to their campus sites by ranking order within the banding.

If this is the case, as it was last year, then the committee should seed so that the quarterfinals are seeded such that the four regional championships are played by No. 1 vs. No. 8, No. 2 vs. No. 7, No. 3 vs. No. 6 and No. 4 vs. No. 5.

So therefore:

No. 2 seeds

No. 8 Union is placed in No. 1 Yale’s regional, the East Regional.

No. 7 Denver is placed in No. 2 North Dakota’s regional, the Midwest Regional.

No. 6 Merrimack is placed in No. 3 Boston College’s regional, the Northeast Regional.

No. 5 Michigan is placed in No. 4 Miami’s regional, the West Regional.

No. 3 seeds

Our bracketing system has one regional containing seeds 1, 8, 9, and 16, another with 2, 7, 10, 15, another with 3, 6, 11, 14 and another with 4, 5, 12 and 13.

Therefore:

No. 9 Minnesota-Duluth is placed in No. 8 Union’s regional, the East Regional.

No. 10 Western Michigan is placed in No. 7 Denver’s regional, the Midwest Regional.

No. 11 Notre Dame is placed in No. 6 Merrimack’s regional, the Northeast Regional.

No. 12 Nebraska-Omaha is placed in No. 5 Michigan’s regional, the West Regional.

No. 4 seeds

One more time, taking No. 16 vs. No. 1, No. 15 vs. No. 2, etc. But we have to place New Hampshire first as a host school.

No. 13 New Hampshire is sent to No. 3 Boston College’s regional, the Northeast Regional.

No. 16 Air Force is sent to No. 1 Yale’s regional, the East Regional.

No. 15 Rensselaer is sent to No. 2 North Dakota’s regional, the Midwest Regional.

No. 14 Colorado College is sent to No. 4 Miami’s regional, the West Regional.

The brackets as we have set them up:

West Regional (St. Louis):
14 Colorado College vs. 4 Miami
12 Nebraska-Omaha vs. 5 Michigan

Midwest Regional (Green Bay):
15 Rensselaer vs. 2 North Dakota
10 Western Michigan vs. 7 Denver

East Regional (Bridgeport):
16 Air Force vs. 1 Yale
9 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 8 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 New Hampshire vs. 3 Boston College
11 Notre Dame vs. 6 Merrimack

Our first concern is avoiding intra-conference matchups. We have one, UNH and BC.

Since UNH is a host school, we have to move BC.

So we swap BC with Miami.

West Regional (St. Louis):
14 Colorado College vs. 3 Boston College
12 Nebraska-Omaha vs. 5 Michigan

Midwest Regional (Green Bay):
15 Rensselaer vs. 2 North Dakota
10 Western Michigan vs. 7 Denver

East Regional (Bridgeport):
16 Air Force vs. 1 Yale
9 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 8 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 New Hampshire vs. 4 Miami
11 Notre Dame vs. 6 Merrimack

And that’s where we’re at.

We’ll see what the committee comes out with on Sunday.


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  • Jay

    Completely agree…I think this is exactly what the bracket will look like.

    • Stal102

      I guarantee. This isn’t the final bracket. Not once has uscho been correct on this. Also you heard it here first – unh will be a 3 seed and bc will be in Manchester. They have strayed from the strict bandings before. Oh and as far as the bc fans rooting for Merrimack – I would do it all over again.

      • lah02155

        That’s what my husband and I came up with, too. I also broke up North Dakota and Denver.

        Manchester: BC, Michigan, UNH, CC (talk about a “bracket of death” :D)
        Bridgeport: Yale, Union, UMD, AFA
        GB: North Dakota, Merrimack, Western Michigan, RPI
        St. Louis: Miami, Denver, Notre Dame, UNO

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KBVOP7JEIJTGTBGPEMTI67KVLU J

          your brackets are impossible

        • Hockey

          St. Louis is the bracket of death in that scenario. Miami’s the one seed but Denver’s would’ve been awfully close to a one seed and if it weren’t for Bemidji, UNO could have possibly have been a one or two seed at the minimum.

      • Icepests

        I agree, they will swap Nebraska-O and UNH and have the following matchups in Manch:
        BC vs. CC
        Mich vs. UNH

        • Veteran observer

          While there is definitely an argument for making UNH a No. 3 seed so BC can stay in the east with no first-round intraconference matchup, I’ve got to say that it would be unprecedented for the committee to do so. They are generally willing to monkey with which level of seed goes where in order to avoid intraconference matchups, but I’ve never seen them switch someone from a 1 to 2 or 3 to 4 to make it happen.

          • Icepests

            Everyone keeps focusing on this 4 to a 3 seed. In reality its only moving from a 13 seed to an 11.

      • Khryx

        Stal102, you are correct that this is not the final bracket. You are not correct about USCHO (specifically Jayson) never having been correct before on their final bracket (example 2007 tourney). However, since I don’t think the committee is required to use solely the PWR to rank the teams, UNH could become a 3 seed. Short of this, it looks like BC is playing in St. Louis.

        • DU_Fan

          The wonderful biased committee has to use PWR to “rank” the teams but the can use the “attendance alibi” to send them where they want. As long as there is only one team from each quadrant in a bracket (1-4,5-8,9-12,13-16) they can do what they please. That is why it is so unfair and there are a lot of valid gripes.

          • Veteran observer

            There will always be gripes, but attendance is a pretty good alibi! Both from the standpoint of revenue and the embarrassment of empty seats, attendance has to be a consideration.

            That said, having a St. Louis regional never really made sense to me, given that there is no program anywhere close to the city.

          • DU_Fan

            How about Green Bay as a site? Attendance alibi just doesn’t fly. WCHA Final Five did not have Wisconsin or Minnesota and had no attendance problems. Top 4 seeds always get to go as close as possible, after that let the chips fall where they may. Go by PWR and only let the site hosts be the exception. This would eliminate all gripes.

          • Hockey

            Because St. Louis probably represented itself well when the FF was there. I do agree with you though and that’s why I hope Omaha receives a bid here some year.

  • G_Forker

    NorthEast – Group of Death

    • B.D.

      …by boredom.

  • Cmarlin7

    You have to put Air Force instead of RIT ?

    • UNOfan

      If you don’t the answer to that, maybe you should find a different board to post on.

  • Matt

    This was my projected bracket, as well. Too bad for BC, the “host school” rule really stinks for them, but within the rules I think this is the best they can do. At least they’ll have Merrimack and UNH close to home.

    • tcbg

      One of these years, BC should actually host a regional…then they wouldn’t have to worry about it. Not that traveling has hurt them in the past few years.

      • FightinSue

        One of these years UNH should try not choking. Like last night when they lost to a lower seed at the Garden. At least you guys finally got to the Garden again!

        • Billandrae

          Let’s see: How about 2009 when UNH beat UND 6-5…

      • Matto

        I agree, BC should host. But that will not happen until at least 2013.

        Must not be too hard to host, as both Yale and Michigan Tech apparently will be repeat hosts next year.

        • just sayin

          I would think that once you have done the work to organize a regional you know how to do it again.

  • Bulldog

    Go Yale!

    Offensive juggernaut with a kick-a$$ goalie between the pipes. We will prove all the haters wrong!

    • AFHockeyFan

      Just like in Colorado Springs the first time, right?
      Air Force over UMD in Bridgeport.

      • Anonymous

        If you agree to spot us a 3 goal lead like you did in Colorado Springs, I agree to let your superiority assert itself from that point on at an altitude of 10 feet.

      • J-con

        Not going to happen

  • Bklein09

    For Michigan this worked out really well. They fell to a two seed and in doing so avoided getting shipped east. Sure BC is gonna be a tough out. But I’m happy to be in Saint Louis.

    • Stal102

      BC a tough out? Hahaha. I would not be happy if I were you if the brackets broke like this

  • Tom

    Sending BC and their fans 19 hours to St. Louis, and Miami and their fans 16 hours to Manchester, just to satisfy the ‘no conference matchups in the first round’ rule, is dumb. I know that’s how it’s done and it’s happened before, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s ridiculous.

  • Suture1

    UND and DU, two of the top 3 teams in the country in the same bracket….go figure? I cannot believe how these eastern teams are rated so highly given the level of competition they face each year. Merrimack, RIT, Union…I have never even heard of these schools. Oh well, I suppose the cream will eventually rise to the top.

    • Ddegen1

      uh duh – HE is one of the top 2 conf’s in the country – & DU is not a top 3 team – if you recall… BC SMOKED Denver @ DENVER 2 straight & outscored them 9-2…..UH DUH

    • G_Forker

      DU is not top 3 in the country. try again !!

    • Matt

      DU is among the top 3 in the country by which rating system, exactly?

      You have never heard of RIT? Did you happen to miss the Frozen Four, oh…. LAST YEAR? Don’t worry, they lost tonight anyway. Replaced by Air Force… which I seem to recall took out Michigan in ’09.

    • FightinSue

      You haven’t heard of these schools because you’re a moron. Try getting out of your mom’s basement a little more.

      • B.D.

        Hell, our HIGH SCHOOL teams travel further than you guys do….

        • FightinSue

          Is that why they become so bitter by the time they get to college?

          • George

            FightinSue, really? That’s the best you have? Sue? Seriously? C’mon that’s a little old isn’t it? I expected better from you.

          • B.D.

            At least he is not spouting his normal “Racism” crap this week. Perhaps he realized that that got old.
            I do find it interesting that he is willing to name himself after a team he dreads…
            Apocryphal.

      • GoRed82

        Of course Suture1′s a moron – you can’t spell DUMB without DU, lol!

    • Don

      Those Eastern schools never do well in the tourney. When will a national title go east again? Oh I forget, the last three years it was the Hockey East Champion—-nevermind

    • Macroom7

      you will be hearing from merrimack. who won the last 3 ncaa championships? eastern or wester teams? have you heard of hockey east ?

      • Ddegen1

        Merrimack is a VERY dangerous team – some talented players there – my Eagles were stretched to the max in the title game last night. Can’t wait to see them (Merr) take out a WCHA or 2

        • B.D.

          Right…..
          Physical contact allowed?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VXBFY2YLPICIGCGCZJOVUZA2GM bryan

      How can you not have heard of Union? If you have been paying attention all season they have been in the top 10. Typical comments from a western hockey fan.

    • Tocon23

      You never heard of R.I.T.? Go check who knocked Denver out of the tournament last year, genius….

    • Guest

      You really haven’t heard of Union? FYI- Aside from hockey- founded 1795, oldest college in NYS, one of oldest in the country. After next weekend, a lot more people will have heard of Union.

      • Suture1

        Yes, I have heard of Union…..but only through college hockey. I did not know these eloquent facts, thank you. Actually, I am for any underdog….if you mind my saying this about Union…I do not mean any disrespect. I was not actually complaining as much as my post seemed to have come off to all you jokers on here. I just think UND and DU are two of the best teams in the country RIGHT NOW. Have they both been at the top during the year? I don’t know, you could argue there have been a number of teams at or near the top. But, I think my argument that DU and UND should not be in the same regional bracket is valid. I simply should have left out the “eastern school” comments…that was my bad and I apologize. It was early and I was a little upset that these two great teams who just beat the crap out of each other are now in the same regional. No matter what anyone says, this is simply not right. I don’t care who beat whom when or where. I’m only talking about right now. In this moment in time, DU and UND should not be in the same regional, it is as simple as that. But, I am also of the belief that you have to beat the best teams if you want to get to the FF so in this sense I guess it doesn’t really matter. If my team, UND, loses in the regional to DU or if they lose in the semi-finals it doesn’t matter to me. It is either a Natl. championship or nothing. Doesn’t everyone feel this way? Anyway, let’s just drop the puck and may the best team win. No hard feelings I hope…:)

        • Matto

          I can easily understand thinking UND as one of the best teams in the country, if not the best.

          But Denver? Based on what evidence?

          Yes, they are good, certainly good enough to win 4 straight games (as are, probably, at least 10 other teams in the field). But this is a team that also lost to St. Cloud State and Michigan Tech (!!!!) at home the last month of the season, and needed OT to take out Minnesota State in the tourney.

          In order for the Green Bay final to match UND and Denver, Denver is going to need to beat Western Michigan. I am not at all convinced that that will happen.

    • Timmay

      The committee is too scared of a repeat of 2005 so they try to pair up wcha schools in the same bracket.

    • GWNH

      Yeah your a moron. UND didnt fair to well against hockey east this year did they? Loosing twice to Maine…who should be in the tourny by the way. The competition is superior in the east. Also, DU is not a top 3 team. I could make the same complaint you are making about about BC, UNH and Merrimack having to be in the same region. Anyway I am just mad Maine didnt make it in and teams like Air Force, RIT and CC get a chance to move on.

      • DU_Fan

        He’s a moron?? You don’t know the difference between FAIR and FARE, and LOOSING and LOSING. How about spelling TOURNEY correct? If Maine did not get swept by Merrimack they might have made it. For normal people it is called, “taking care of business”. You must have gone to one of the wonderful boarding schools in Orono. You should stick to blogging on the sites for the illiterate.

      • SIOUX

        The UND team that went to Maine is not the same team as they are noew and also the refs forgot to inform UND there was no checking that weekend. I also believe BC beat Denver early in the year and this young Denver team has grown up since then. I would switch Denver and Merrimack in this bracket.

        • SIOUX IS A GIRLS NAME

          More excuses from the overated WCHA morons and the Crying Sioux fans .

          • Orleanshomes

            over rated? bc is 1 and done. by the 5th best team in the wcha.

        • YALE BEAT THE SIOUX LOL HA HA

          Please since 2001 I have heard more smack talk coming out of North Dakota and every year those same fans dissapear during regionals.

        • The Crying Sioux

          Grab Sioux a tissue he is flooding the world with his tears.

      • GWNH

        wow buddy, I didn’t realize this was a spelling B. I thought we were hear to talk hockey. So to get back to it you are right, Maine didn’t take care of business and they won’t get in because of that. But when a team like Maine, who is left out of the tourney, sweeps your top midwest team UND easily it speaks to the competition level here in the east being the best in the country.

    • SHOOTER

      you haven`t heard of these schools? an eastern school has won the big dance 3 of the last 4 years. maybe it`s because you should get your head out of your a$$.

    • Really the Redskins

      can you please explain how DU is one of the top tree teams in America? We’re not reading the same material.

    • BC OWNS UND

      Another MORON who has his head up his a s s have you heard of Yale I bet you have .Hopefully Merrimack gets to meet a WCHA team and hopefully it is UND because UND got schooled by Maine Denver could not catch BC with a 100 yard fishing net .But it was early in the year and blah blah blah more excuses for the slow skating over rated SO CALLED Dominant WCHA.

      • Stone

        I love it…. learn a little about college hockey as a whole before talking trash…. WCHA slow footed?? You better check out those boys from CC this weekend before you start talking as they have the ability to take down your precious Eagles. UND’s team speed is just as good. I watch college hockey from all over the country and there a lot of good teams. UND, BC, Miami, Michigan, UMD, DU, Yale and Merrimack have legit shots at winning a title this year. Let’s all take our blinders off and just enjoy some good hockey.

  • Ddegen1

    BC will get totally shafted – winning their reg season & their tourn – perhaps the toughest conf in the country ….. and they have to travel instead of Merrimack…..what kind of reward system is that?? BS that’s what kind!!!!!!!!!

    • Guest

      Ha! Toughest conference in the country? Good one.

      • Ddegen1

        Can’t wait to see look on your face when Merrimack takes out ND & Miami & HE puts 2 more in the FF. in case you got amnesia – HE OWNS the last 3 titles & 4 in the last 10 yrs

        • Guest

          Yeah cause past success totally means that the current Hockey East teams are amazing. WCHA is clearly the best conference in the NCAA, and if Merrimack gets switched with DU (which they should), then don’t be surprised if the Frozen Four is all-WCHA. UNO, UMD, DU, and UND.

          • Ddegen1

            yeah…whatever….keep smoking that funny stuff – you’ll see.

          • B.D.

            Agreed. The best SHOULD rise to the top.

        • Boonetown

          WCHA has 5 titles in the last 10 years. In case you “got” amnesia…

          • Ddegen1

            HE & WCHA – 2 best conf’s, with HE getting the edge CURRENTLY with the last 3 titles

          • Boonetown

            I can agree to that. With the nod going to the WCHA historically speaking.

          • Guest

            WCHA is CURRENTLY better. Look at the KRACH strength of schedule rankings. WCHA teams, because of conference play, make up the top 11 teams. The WCHA is objectively the stronger conference this year.

          • Ddegen1

            Head to head – the top 5 teams in HE are 5-0 vs the top 5 from WCHA
            #1 BC 2-0 vs Denver
            #3 BU 1-0 vs Wisconsin
            #5 Maine 2-0 vs N Dakota

            #2 UNH did not play WCHA
            #4 Merrimack same

          • Guest

            The WCHA is 9-5-1 against Hockey East this year. Also, I realize it’s only one win but Wisconsin actually finished 7th this year.

          • Guest

            These arguments are so ridic…are some of you seriously trying to say that if your team doesn’t win you start rooting for other teams in your conference? I’m a BC fan and if BC doesn’t win it, all I want is for BU, Maine and UNH to be knocked out too. If a UND fan started cheering for DU all I can say is pathetic bandwagon know nothings… Who cares what conference is better, it just matters what team is best.

          • numbers

            By the numbers, the WCHA is not stronger because of conference play. If you only counted conference games then the overall record of the league is by definition .500. What matters is non-conference games. The WCHA had the best non-conference record hence they have the highest strength of schedule. If you don’t believe me, go to Whelan’s pairwise predictor and remove all of the WCHA’s non-conference games. Watch what happens.

          • Anonymous

            You have to realize that Duluth has insane firepower… CC can keep up with anyone for 60 minutes… UNO is out for blood after being upset by Bemidji…. and lets not forget the top 2…. UND and Denver. No doubt at least 2 teams in the Frozen Four are WCHA. If you disagree then you need to watch some of the Final Five because it was an all out war this year.

          • Ddegen1

            BC went to Denver & beat them 2 straight outscoring them 9-2. If Denver is 1 of the top 2 teams in WCHA, you better plan for counseling in the near future

          • Anonymous

            Read response below

          • Matto

            Or, perhaps that could be, CC got demolished by Yale, and UNO lost… again… to a weak Bemidji team.

            I expect, at minimum, that if what you say is true, that UMD will be in the Frozen Four. Anything less would be a disgrace.

          • Anonymous

            Its playoff time. Regular season is out the door my friend. If you take the time and watch 3 games from the WCHA Final Five I can bet my Sioux jersey that you will change your mind.

          • Ddegen1

            What is N Dakota’s record vs BC in the post season in the last 10 yrs? I’ll take that shirt now thank you.

          • Anonymous

            Lol you are about as informed as most people on here… hardly. Sioux fans are great at digging up the past too….. difference is we have more trophies in our closet. I’ll accept touche as a humble response.

          • Rob

            I’ve learned Matt is very talented at digging up history that supports his agruments only. Granted, BU & BC do very well, but after that HE is non-existent as is the ECAC. Basically, there are 4 to 5 teams in the WCHA, BC, and BU that compete for dominance every year with Michigan or Michigan St. sprinkled in every once and awhile. Maine and LSSU had a nice run in the 90s but I don’t expect that to repeat itself.

          • Matto

            Like most of your other responses, this one also is free of supporting data.

            HE has had 6 different teams beat non-conference teams in the tournament the last 4 years, that is easily the most of any conference. HE has had 5 different teams win non-conference opponents the last 2 years, also easily the most of any conference.

            Oh, and it might be worth noting that the only team in the country to both make the tournament and win at least one game each of the last 4 years is not a WCHA team either, nor is it any of the others that you named. It’s Miami: 2-0 against WCHA teams, 1-4 against Hockey East teams (the one, incidentally, being a first round match against UNH at Manchester).

          • Rob

            Matt, I was looking at national championships only. That’s all that matters. Its what the top schools play for and they’re pissed if that they don’t win it. Teams that win a game in a regional but never win a nat’l championship simply don’t matter in the big picture. End of story.

          • Matto

            Rob — you can move the goalposts from here to Timbuktu if you’d like, and goodness gracious you’re trying, and you’re still wrong. No WCHA team not named Wisconsin has sniffed the title game in a long time. WCHA teams are regularly being bounced by HE and CCHA teams that last 4 years.

            The arguments are tired. The brackets came out as expected. Deal with it.

          • Rob

            Matt, how am I wrong? I only care about national championships and yes I know its been awhile for a WCHA team. But, that’s still all I care about and in my opinion which I’m entitled to, that is all that matters. BC, BU, and a handful of WCHA teams in the last several years. Read the list. I never said anything negative about the brackets. I’m okay with UND and Denver in the same regional. If a WCHA doesn’t win it this year, we’ll try again next year. But winning it all is all that matters.

          • Phil

            Ddegen1, being the thorough person that you are, you likely would feel better about yourself if we reviewed more than only 10 years. And, what matters most to all of us, that’s right…it’s national championships. UND-7 to BC-4. Both good programs, but BC has some catching up to do.

          • Matto

            Did you watch the Hockey East final? Did you see Yale dismember Cornell? How about the CCHA games?

            Playoff time haas not been kind to the WCHA in recent years. There’s not a single current WCHA player with a championship ring, is there?

            So, I hope I’ll be excused for wanting proof in the NCAA tourney, not the conference tourney.

          • Anonymous

            Yale is an offensive powerhouse and would expect nothing less, CCHA is in a funk this year, but still has some quality teams. Recent being the last 3? Sure. Any Sioux fan will say that BC has had our number in the past who knows this year? Difference is we have an entire team (forwards, defensemen, goalie, 4 lines) that can and will contend. As for a championship ring… if that guarantees BC and BU into the Frozen Four… oh wait BU is out… so your point is?

          • Guest

            Yale beat CC in one game on November 13th, so over 4 months ago. Not exactly an accurate sampling in which to judge.

          • Matto

            Yes, because the only accurate samplings are the ones in which the WCHA teams win. We know that.

            Had that score been 6-1 CC, you’d be citing it, guaranteed.

          • Rob

            As far as I’m concerned any games between any teams that happened longer ago than mid February don’t matter. I know they matter for Pairwise, etc. but not to me. Teams change, goalies get hot, injuries, etc. That’s the great thing about the tournament. It gets decided. I’m starting to think you must’ve been roughed up by some WCHA goons at some point because you really sound jaded. C’mon man, let’s hug it out.

          • Matto

            No, my team knocked off its WCHA opponent last year… which means I could like any of *several* schools.

            I’m just amused, mostly. We’ll see how it falls. I don’t have a problem with UND and Denver in the same regional. Makes sense to me. But if they want to shift within a band and push UofM to Green Bay instead, that’s fine, too.

            They’re not going to move more Hockey East teams out of Manchester to satisfy WCHA-fan whining, not unless your fans are going to fill the building… which you’re not.

            And, I’ll predict it here: Yale will win the Bridgeport regional.

          • B.D.

            Yeah? At least WCHA teams usually fill their events.

          • Matto

            That’s nice. Manchester will be helped by having Hockey East teams. Bridgeport will be packed. That’s what matters right now.

          • Paul

            Matt, your whining is equal or greater than any WCHA poster I’ve seen on here. Gutsy prediction by the way. You’re really going out on a limb predicting that the #1 overall seed will win their regional and on basically home ice. You’re so gutsy.

          • Matto

            Yawn.

          • SIOUX

            A WEAK Bemidji team would beat up on the WEAK eastern conferences.

          • that is illogical

            I get it now. Past success of Hockey East is irrelevant but the past success of the WCHA is relevant. You guys crack me up.

          • Matto

            Yes, that seems to be about the size of it.

            Now that the brackets are official, and Moy’s bracket is confirmed to the letter, let’s see the new round of whining begin!

          • Paul

            You’re right! Lots of BC people whining about having to go to St. Louis.

        • stickontheice

          Yes, and that has as much influence as who attended the game, the phase of the moon and what the price of Microsoft was then. Talk about owning titles? When HE gets to 34, then you can talk about owning the NCAA tournament.

          • Khryx

            Just curious, where does 34 come from? No single conference has won 34 titles unless you combine teams tenure in different conferences… I think the most won by a conference is 29 by the WCHA or 36 if you count the MCHL wins in with the WCHA wins.

    • Anonymous

      You must have missed 3 of the best games this year in the WCHA Final Five. Bemidji beating Duluth, CC almost sticking it to the Sioux, and Dell standing on his head to give the Sioux the title. I got 10x my money’s worth this year at the tournament. No other conference championship came even close to it.

      • Guest

        I was there too. That was a hell of a tournament.

    • Righty

      BC fan here. Don’t care who they play or where. Bring it on….

  • Drewpdrawers

    For all of those BC fans who were cheering for Merrimack on Friday night: enjoy the trip to St. Louis. One more win for UNH probably would have kept them as a #3 and kept the Eagles in ManchVegas. So now the Warrior faithful get the joy of staying close to home (and perhaps a fifth meeting with the Wildcats!).

  • Dbznd

    Switch Merrimack (#8 in KRACH) & Denver (#4 in KRACH). There is no reason not to have a WCHA team in the Northeast, and as a #1 Seed, why should the #2 team from your own conference be in your regonal when there is the scenario above? Oh, yeah, NCAA is afraid of 4 WCHA teams advancing to the Frozen 4!!! Asinine!

    • Geoff

      Sure. And BC will beat all 4 of them like they always do. Only this time with their hands tied behind their backs.

    • Matt

      WCHA in the Northeast as #1… why?

      This is the NCAA tourney, not the WCHA tourney. Go ask the folks in Manchester whether they want UNH and Merrimack in their building, or UND. Pretty easy. The host rule is there for a reason. Sucks for BC (the Manchester folks would love them, too), but putting UND there is NOT a solution to anything.

      And, by the way, how did it work out for UND, going East *last* year?

      • Dbznd

        Denver would be the #2 seed in the NE. Take a look at any other Poll & you will see where Merrimak ranks in reality. Personally, I think that KRACH is the way to go. Take a look at the number of games versus TUC for pairs like UND/Yale, or Denver/Merrimack. It is way out of wack. The bottom line is that it is an NCAA policy to avoid conference matchups. If you win your conference & are a #1 seed, why should you get your runnerup (in the conference & in the conference tournament) before the Frozen 4? I’d make the same arguement if it was Miami/Michigan, or BC/BU, etc. The goal should be getting the best four teams to the Frozen Four, not stacking the deck against that happening by shoving 2 of the top 4 or 5 teams in the country into one 4-team bracket

        • Matto

          Not to overstate the obvious, but by definition there will ALWAYS be two of the top 5 teams in one 4-team bracket. That is a mathematical certainty.

          That it so happens that Denver is #4 in Krach and lower in pairwise… so what, really? They’re not displaced by one of the Eastern teams, as it happens, but rather by a CCHA team.

          • Dbznd

            Then come up with an answer for why only the Sioux have their runner-up in their regional? You’d be screaming if it happened to your team. I know that I am making a very logical statement & possible fix. BTW – the fun thing about tournaments like these is that last year has nothing to do with this year. Congrats to the Sioux for a 30-win seaspon, the WCHA season & tournament tropies, maybe the Hobey winner, and a 20-8-3 record against “teams under consideration”, in other words, that was one hell of a schedule!

          • Matto

            The reason is that that’s how the Pairwise worked out. Champion and finalist is an arbitrary distinction, since Pairwise doesn’t care. Could just as easily be “regular season champion” and “conference tournament champion,” and… well, they you go: ECAC at Bridgeport.

            I’m also not impressed by UND whining. We saw it last year, too, right up until they lost to an ECAC team.

            One thing, though: If a WCHA team doesn’t come out of that Green Bay regional, I think we’re gonna need at least a 2-year moratorium on WCHA-woofing.

          • Rob

            UND was a 2 seed (#8 overall) last year, so losing to Yale in the East was hardly an upset. It was a close game and Yale’s stars came up big. It really has no relevance to this year at all. Everyone can grab some statistic make an argument for their team. Let’s just lace ‘em up and drop the pucks.

          • Matto

            Rob — wrong.

            UND was #5 last year, not #8, and there were nearly the exact same whines… That UND should have been a top seed in a regional, etc.

            Yale was #9, and was flipped with Michigan to help attendance in Worcester and Fort Wayne.

            If you think it was “hardly an upset,” perhaps re-read some of the analysis from when it happened.

          • Rob

            Matt, so what’s your point? Neither UND or Yale were good enough to win last year. UND finished 5th in the WCHA last year and had a good WCHA tourney and won it. In my mind, that doesn’t make them a top seed. But, it doesn’t matter, because its history, over, kaput. I’m not going to re-read anything because it doesn’t matter. Let’s focus on this year. Please don’t interpret this as whining. Yale won and UND lost. But, neither team made it to the frozen four. End of story. So, again what happened last year between those 2 schools is irrelevant.

          • Matto

            The point is that the whining about UND and Denver possibly being in the same regional is ridiculous. It is pretty much the exact same whining as last year, with people pointing to Krach and screaming that they got a raw deal (by Krach last year, Yale shouldn’t have been in the tournament at all, if memory serves, and UND should have been even higher than #5).

            If UND and Denver are so superior, then for sure one of them will come out of Green Bay to the Frozen Four. They don’t have an entitlement to avoid each other in the regional.

          • Rob

            No, you made tried to make a point about Yale beating an average UND last season and how it somehow mattered this year. Now, you’re changing your agrument. And for the sake of all that is holy, please explain to me how a team that finishes the regular season in 5th place in their conference should be higher than a #5 in the national tournament. Regarding the supposed whining that you can’t seem to stop talking about, don’t generalize and lump everyone into the same category. It shows poorly on you.

          • Matto

            Go back to last year’s discussion and find me the posts conceding that ND was somehow “average” then. NOW they can be described as “average,” because… they lost.

            Just like you folks can’t seem to decide if “last year doesn’t matter” (even though it’s the same reaction story) or if only “WCHA has 34 titles” matters (even though no WCHA team other than Wisconsin has made a final game the last 5 years).

            Make up your minds.
            But don’t tell me that Denver deservers to be placed in Manchester (which *is* the subject of this sub-thread, if you’ll bother to notice), displacing a local team that *should* be there by pairwise, because they are somehow too good to be paired with ND. It’s just not so.

          • SIOUX

            Denver should be placed out east, because they would win the regional out east.

          • Rob

            I don’t know or care what posts were made last year, so I’m not going to look for them. Isn’t a team that finishes in the middle of their conference considered average. UND finished 5th in the WCHA last year, which would indicate they were average. It shouldn’t matter if it was UND or any team that finished 5th in their conference. How can you not understand that? Seriously? Don’t come back to me with some crap that other people posted either.

  • matt

    My bet is that they break with tradition and flip UNH and UNO

    • SiouxAlumDenver

      I’ll take that bet….UNH is a host school. They will be in Manchester no matter what.

      • matt

        I mean the seeds. That makes UNH the 3 seed in Manchester

        • SiouxAlumDenver

          Yeah the committee might do that for attendance purposes I suppose. Sending BC west is a bad idea for attendance…

          • matt

            agreed

          • Guest

            I’ll agree with this as well. My bet is UNH as a 3 seed and UNO to 4. BC and Miami Swap. Merrimack will also swap with either the West or Midwest regional 2 seed. Better scenarios for Miami and BC.

      • UmileHater

        NCAA needs to change the hosting rule. Unless you are a #1 or a #2, teams have no business “hosting” a regional. UNH has not earned the right to play in Manchester and should be shipped out west. Screw attendance.

    • Matto

      they can’t. UNH is a host school, so they can’t be physically moved, and they are in the 4th band, so they can’t be flipped with UNO within the regional.

      Would sure make for a better bracket, though.

      And I’m switching to matto, and 2 matt’s in the room is one too many for me .

    • Anonymous

      I see them moving Western Michigan and Denver to NH and Notre Dame and Merrimack to Wisconsin. Divides up the conferences and prevents the KRACH #1 and #4 seeds from being in the same regional. Doesn’t screw anyone that way really

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SKCV4WI5ZVD2F6BKB45SKCR5Y4 m

    I came up with the same thing, but could the “A flight is a flight” rule come into play?

    Grand Forks to Green Bay is about 600 miles, so that’s presumably a flight? Miami to St. Louis is less than 400 miles so presumably that’s a road trip?

    Based on that could we see North Dakota sent out east, and BC sent to Green Bay? It would probably make for some lousy attendance in GB, so that might cancel out the “savings” of avoiding the flight?

  • JimK

    Answer to Cmarlin7 – Air Force won the conference tournament. RIT doesn’t go because they didn’t make the top 16.

  • Where Eagles Dare

    Complete fail…St. Louis and Green Bay have a total of 4 legit teams which could easily make a good Frozen Four team. The other 2 brackets have 1 1/2 legit teams.

    almost as bad as the BCS

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501157411 Joey Loeffler Jr

    I would like to not have to go through Denver again to make it to St. Paul.I would rather have Merrimack even though they’re ranked higher.

    • Anonymous

      I agree… placing UND and Denver in the same regional would be insane. Not to mention that game could draw a massive crowd…. Denver will be out for redemption and the Sioux are looking to go 3/3 in hardware… excuse me… 4/4 including the HOBEY BAKER! Sorry had to do it after Frattin’s 2 game winning goals.

  • Where Eagles Dare

    The simple solution is, stop having host schools…who gives a rats ass who the host is. In fact, many times, the host school doesn’t make the tourney anyway. So, just have the conferences be the host if they location of the region is in their area.

    Letting teams that barely make it into the tourney decide where the #1 seeds go is absurd !

  • Ddegen1

    BC, reigning champs, win reg season & tourn & they get sent to St Louis? GREAT REWARD SYSTEM!!!!

  • Boonetown

    I like the BC fans on here complaining about BC potentially going out West. BC hasn’t been outside of the Northeast for an NCAA regional in over 10 years. It’s about time they play in unfriendly territory.

    • BSU Beavers

      Couldn’t agree more Boonetown. The Sioux fans are whiners when they complain about this happening to them constantly, yet the one year it possibly happens to you, you cry about it. Don’t worry, the committee will bail you out like it always does.

      • BSU Beavers

        “You” being BC fans.

    • guest

      BC is not as strong as last year, and will have a tough time getting to FF. However, they have played at less than perfect against strong teams, UNH in the final weekend of the conference, Merrimack which will be a tough beat against anyone, and managed to come out winners. They owned DU at a time in the season when BC usually does not play very well, and are a match against anyone. Say what you want, every conference has a worthy contender, but I’ll put any of the three HE teams against anyone else, and say that the odds are even.

  • Blueliner

    Damn; this is fun! I love D 1 hockey. I just can’t afford to fly around the country and absorb travel expenses to follow my team that is sent WEST after winning their regular season league title AND the league tourney championship! See you all in St Paul.

  • Rob

    So,another round of mudslinging about which conference is best. Clearly, HE gets the nod the last few years because of BU and BC, but if looking at championships only, it appers that HE has been rather top heavy and the talent level falls off rather fast for the rest of HE. WCHA probably has the most depth, but hasn’t won the big game lately. However, a WCHA team won 5 of 6 in the mid 90s with I think 4 different teams winning the title, so it appears to go in cycles between the 2 conferences. Teams like Yale, Miami, etc. like to chirp, but until they win it all its just white noise. So, only one team can win their next 4 games. My money is on a WCHA team this year, but its wide open. Enjoy the ride.

    • Rob

      Sorry, meant the mid 00s when the WCHA won 5 of 6.

  • Where Eagles Dare

    Hasn’t BC been in 6 out of the last 10 finals (and 8 of the last 13). In fact, since 1998, there’s only been 1 year that a HE team wasn’t in a final (in 2005), but HE sent 2 teams to the 1999 final. So, in 13 years, 13 HE teams have played in a National Champ game.

    HE rocks, and BC is the king of the hill !! Nuff said…

    • Yep

      Reading this pissing contest between UND and BC fans every week is retarded. Both conferences are really good. When MN is down, HE is better. When MN is a national power, WCHA is better. MN sucks right now so HE gets to have it’s faceless, Internet chatters come out of the woodwork.

  • Anonymous

    Anybody think that since 13 New Hampshire has to be in Manchester that they will just move the 4-5-12-13 bracket (Miami v UNH, UMich v UNO) to Manchester and the 3-6-11-14 (BC v CC, Merrimack v Notre Dame) bracket to St Louis?

    • Matto

      No, I don’t. For attendance, they’ll keep Merrimack closer to home… that is, Manchester. No reason to shaft them, too.

  • max

    Why RPI and not Dartmouth for an at large bid? Dartmouth is #15, RPI is #18, according to latest poll. RPI lost in first round of ECAC tourny to Colgate, Dartmouth beat Colgate in same tourny’s final 4.

    • Khryx

      RPI is tied 13 in the PWR (or 15 overall, not 18) while Dartmouth is 16 not 15. Since Air Force gets an automatic bid, this forces Dartmouth out. However, if the committee decides to use some creative math to rank the teams differently in an attempt to get NH as a 3 seed, this could also cause Dartmouth to get in and RPI to fall out. However, I think the PWR plus automatic bids has always picked the field under the current 16 team setup.

  • davis_ron99

    It would be a travesty for DU and North Dakota to end up in the same bracket. Switch DU with the #6 or #8 teams.

    • DU_Fan

      Totally agree… Last night’s game was worthy of a Frozen Four final.

  • guest

    I’ve enjoyed reading all this banter of diehard college hockey fans, its too bad that the comment section of an internet article, is where you have to find the most informative discussion about the sport. But I could have watched 5 different channels this afternoon to hear instant analysis on any number of crappy basketball games. Oh well, college hockey gets its moment in the sun this morning, too bad the sunlight only lasts for 30 minutes.

  • Anonymous

    Even without BC there, the Manchester site will trump the other three for attendance…no question. As for BC, they could play on Neptune and do well (see: last year, in an aircraft hangar).

    • SIOUX

      Wherever North Dakota ends up whether Green Bay or St.Louis will have the best attendance, UND has the best travelling fan base.

  • UNH Blows

    Why does everything come down to WCHA versus Hockey East? They are both excellent conferences, but this dichotomy is meaningless, and also discounts the CCHA. Don’t give me total championships, because the WCHA in one name or another has existed for 34 more seasons than HE. Since Hockey East was launched, WCHA has 10 titles, HE has 7, and CCHA has 7. HE put 36 teams into the Frozen Four while WCHA put 30 and CCHA 25. If you have taken consolation in any of those numbers, I truly feel for you. You’ll sleep well tonight, safe in knowing that some meaningless number from yore affords you self-righteousness on the internet while you’re arguing about why one conglomeration of universities is arbitrarily better than another, as though it will have any effect on these games, world peace, or anything. Pride in your school is one thing. Effrontery on behalf of the schools you hate because somebody in the midwest has an inferiority complex with the media is another.

    • Suture1

      Hey UNH, nice prose, seriously. I agree with you about the accomplishments of yore. But, I also do not rely on the poles rather than good hockey sense….which not all of our posters have. The truth is this, there are 3 teams in the country that, as a group, would statistically be HEAVILY favored to pull out a national championship. Two of these teams are from the West and one is from the east. I am not saying one of these teams will win, I am talking about potential outcomes. So, why two of these teams are in the same regional group is a bit troubling. I don’t care who you like or who you think is better than whom. UND, DU and BC are the 3 best teams in the country. Put down your idiotic poles, your league affiliation and just tell it straight up. Yes, the eastern teams have been great the past decade. I don’t care…getting back to YOUR coment on YORE….:) Merrimac, Yale, Michigan, Union, Air Force, CC, Notre Dame….you can put in any of these teams….it just doesn’t matter. I just think the best teams, going by hockey sense, should not be in the same regional bracket. I think BC’s bracket is a bit treacherous as well, I think they deserved a more reasonable regional based on their sum of work over the year. But, as I said, at the end of the day I suppose it really does not matter. The best teams will rise to the top regardless of their “bracket”. BTW, I wish I had the diction you posses UNH, have to say I am a bit jealous…:)

  • titletown

    The really bad rub is why must a “host” school be placed in its own bracket. The UNH hockey team does not need to play at home in order for the school to properly host the games there!

    How about this for fair treatment? All #1 seeds get to play close to home, like basketball. I think the top 4 shcools have earned that right, to include BC, all it’s done is win its regular season and tournement titles

    • Facts?

      Duke is out west. Are they located in California? At least use facts when making a point.

      • ECAC Blows

        Same to you bro, where did Duke play today? Oh yeah, thats right, Duke played in Charlotte today. The Sweet 16 locations don’t favor anyone in particular. Calling someone else out with BS ‘facts’ is utterly pathetic.

  • Brian the Brain

    I think the Committee will take into consideration the fact that UNH wins the individual PWR comparison vs. UNO and make UNH the last 3 seed and UNO the first 4 seed. Then BC stays in the Northeast and Miami stays in the West.

    • Guest

      ^^^ this, then the final bracket will look like this
      East
      Yale vs Air Force
      Union vs W Michigan
      Northeast
      Boston College vs Colorado College
      Merrimack vs UNH
      Midwest
      UND vs RPI
      Mich vs UMD
      West
      Miami vs Nebraska Omaha
      Denver vs Notre Dame

      • Khryx

        Guest, this can’t happen since Merrimack and UNH are both from HE

  • Yaleissoft

    Does anyone really think Yale should be the number one over all seed? That is ridiculous. That conference is terrible and tales had gotten beat by st. Lawrence (2x), brown, tied colgate, etc… PRW should take into account the reality about how good the teams are by looking at other polls etc… When determining some of the rankings. BC and UND are both much better than Yale but will have to play each other before getting to the final game. What a shame.

    • Anonymous

      That’s why KRACH is better. Regardless Yale still has to get to the FF first. I don’t think it’s a given that they beat Air Force; if they do they are certainly not a lock against Union or Duluth. I don’t know much about Union other than their record, but I wouldn’t want to face Duluth and their top line. If Jayson’s prediction holds I think Duluth will win the East.

      • just sayin

        You like KRACH because it overstates the strength of the middle tier WCHA teams.

        And they are never going to go with straight KRACH. The most the would do is replace RPI in the Pairwise with KRACH. And UND would still finish behind Yale this year because of Common Opponents. Without the Common Opponents criteria teams would have even less incentive to schedule decent and/or varied non-conference opponents.

    • Bulldog

      Didn’t Yale beat North Dakota in the tournament LAST YEAR?!?

      • ECAC is worthless

        Why bother even playing this year? Let’s just use last years results. And I hate UND so coming to their defense pains me but your comment was that pointless.

        • You Are Worthless

          People bring it up because the poor sports from North Dakota keep saying how unfair it was that they had to travel and how lucky Yale was. That can’t simply say good game and show an ounce of sportsmanship.

          • Paul

            I’m a UND guy and watched the game last year. It was a close, hard fought game. Yales stars stepped up and UND couldn’t get the goal it needed. In the end, it didn’t matter much because BC beat Yale and would’ve beat UND also. BTW, I only care about national championships so anything that happens in the early rounds doesn’t matter to me even if UND wins. Who knows how this year will end up. Both school are better this year, so it will be interesting to see how it goes down.

          • Matto

            Yale’s biggest star didn’t play. He was hurt a few days before the game.

          • George

            “Yales stars”. Not star. “stars”

          • Siouxhockeyrocks

            North Dakota was missing it’s best player at that time of the year as well. In fact North Dakota missed him albeit 9 games of the season last year. I see no argument for or against either team. Both Yale and Nodak were top tier but not good enough last year.

  • Anonymous

    With a couple of small tweaks they can keep pretty good bracket integrity as well as good attendance.

    West Regional (St. Louis):
    14 Colorado College (WCHA) vs. 3 Boston College (HE)
    12 Nebraska-Omaha (WCHA) vs. 5 Michigan (CCHA)

    Midwest Regional (Green Bay):
    15 Rensselaer (ECAC) vs. 2 North Dakota (WCHA)
    10 Western Michigan (CCHA) vs. 6 Merrimack (HE)

    East Regional (Bridgeport):
    16 Air Force (AHA) vs. 1 Yale (ECAC)
    9 Minnesota-Duluth (WCHA) vs. 8 Union (ECAC)

    Northeast Regional (Manchester):
    13 New Hampshire (HE) vs. 4 Miami (CCHA)
    11 Notre Dame (CCHA) vs. 7 Denver (WCHA)

    The only difference between mine and Jayson’s is that I switched 7 Denver with 6 Merrimack. Neither of these teams will have that much impact on attendance. I’m only switching a 6 with a 7 and the result is a much better spread of the conferences between regionals.

    Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2011/03/19/bracketology-our-final-answer/#ixzz1H8uZ86jo

    • Matto

      Miami, Notre Dame and Denver playing in Manchester?? No.
      They’re not going to make Merrimack travel. Bad enough they’re doing it to BC, no reason to do it twice.

      If the committee really decides it’s that important to separate ND and Denver, it’d make more sense to put the Denver Notre Dame game in St. Louis, and move the Michigan/UNO game to Green Bay.

      But, barring moving New Hampshire’s band (and I don’t think they can do that with their current rules), Merrimack will be playing in Manchester.

  • Guest

    No one will be laughing when Union plays Air Force for the right to go to the frozen 4. RPI is the biggest joke of this whole thing. I really hope they draw North Dakota. That is only fair seeing as their season should be OVER.

  • Ericthegreat

    For all you east coast hockey fans (all 3 of you), before you start popping off, please go look at the fact that out of the last 62 NCAA hockey championships, the WCHA has won 30 of them. In fact, the WCHA and CCHA have won. All but 16 of the championships. HE schools have won 11. How embarrassing.

    • Lennyak1@yahoo.com

      Hey Eric the Great did you happen to read what UNH Blows wrote at the beginning of all this or do you just Cherry Pick

      • Ericthegreat

        Hey Lenny, do you know anything about college hockey? All I used were the schools CURRENTLY in the WCHA, and currently in the other conferences. Go look at the history of the WCHA and see al the schools that were in the conference at one time. Using your idiotic process, then the WCHA is brand new because it added two schools last year. The fact is that the schools that make up the WCHA and CCHA have the vast majority of the championships. The hockey schools out east have not been so good. Now, why don’t you and your other four hockey fans go into your empty rink and watch your team play. Must be nice never having to worry about getting a seat for a game.

        • Matto

          So, Eric, when the Big 10 becomes official, supposedly on MONDAY, do they immediately get to claim 21 titles? Tell me, how does that work? I mean, if it’s schools CURRENTLY in the conference, and all?

          It’ll sure stink for the WCHA, having to surrender almost half of its championships overnight, won’t it?

  • Ridingtimes

    Please keep over looking Colorado College…They may just shock a team. If you dont think so..Look how they did against DU and UND. We split with DU one of the games was a blow out(9-3)…We split with ND during the regular season. Yes we lost to UND in the WCHA Tourney..but CC gave them fits. Not saying will win it all but watch out this team is so unpredictable it is scary…GO TIGERS…GO WCHA

    • DU_Fan

      CC goes as far as Howe takes them. His erratic play is the reason they have been so unpredictable.

  • Snoopycol

    The seeding is meaningless – as there are 16 teams, there isn’t much difference between a 1 and a 4 anymore. Since 16 teams in 2003, I remember that the first 4 to win over a 1 was Holy Cross in 2006. Since then, we have had two 4 seeds beat 1 seeds in 2007 (and remember UAH took Notre Dame to 2 ots), one in 2008 (Notre Dame went to Championship Game), three! in 2009, where two! of them made it to the Frozen 4 and another 4 seed Frozen 4 in 2010 (and UAH took Miami to 2 ots). Thus, since 2007, 4 seeds are 7-9 in the first round against 1 seeds. I vote for making the tournament 20 – one extra game between a 4-5 on Friday afternoon, then you can have either the 2-3 game later that night or the next day (staggered by brackets) with the 4/5-1 game, and have the championship on Sunday. Or use that week off between the regionals and the frozen 4 (I know they do not want to go up against basketball with that one).

  • DU_Fan

    There is not one team in this tourney that is not capable of winning on any given night, including Air Force.

  • Anonymous

    Predictions as follows: East-Yale beats AF, Minn-D beats Union & then Yale. NE-UNH beats Miami, Merrimack beats ND and then beats UNH. Midwest -North Dak beats RPI, Denver beats West. Mich. and loses to North Dakota.West-BC beats CC and then beats Michigan. BC then beats North Dakota. Final – repeat of HE Tourney with one exception Merrimack wins it all! Assumes Moys brackets hold.

  • GoRed82

    Maybe I missed an explanation somewhere, but when setting the brackets, why is it necessary to avoid intraconference matchups?

    • guest

      Why would you want to watch a repeat of a conference tourney match up. The way to keep this tourney interesting is to move teams to be seen by different audiences. You would also never really have a feel for the strength of your favorite conference if they all ended up in the same bracket. I wish BC weren’t going to be forced to travel but I’m interested in seeing what is going to happen in Manchester.

  • http://twitter.com/GoIrish2007 Daniel Geffre

    I just want to take a moment to point out that I’ve never seen a stronger group of 1-seeds…ever

    Over the last 4 weeks these 4 teams are:
    27-1-1

    Over the last 5
    30-3-3

    Over the last 6
    36-4-4

    Over the last 7
    42-4-4

    The 4 week and 7 week splits are ridiculous…

  • Thor

    Prodesse quam conspici

  • Mcallen69

    yo youre a dumb mother fucker.

  • Drewpdrawers

    They can’t change the rules for this year or next, but perhaps in the future they could get rid of host schools and have leagues host instead. HE for Worcester, Manchester, Providence; ECAC for Bridgeport, Albany, Atlantic City(!), and so on. Although having Anchorage hosting in Anaheim was priceless (and who is hosting the FF in Tampa/St. Pete?).

  • HockeyEast fan

    Any reason NOT to make UNH a 3 seed in the Manchester bracket? Is there really a difference between 11-14 seeds?

    Seems unfair to both Miami and BC to be sent “away” because UNH couldn’t get the job done.

    And then BC (as the #3) gets Michigan (as the #5) … bracket integrity?

    You can only play who’s in your bracket; but if I were President, I’d do what I can to keep teams within their area. Yes, some people will travel, but MORE people will drive to Manchester than fly to St. Louis (or vice versa) … from Miami and Chestnut Hill!

    You got your top-4 teams, all conference winners … and Miami/BC taking one in the chin.

  • miamifan

    Jason Moy nailed it! Right on.

  • HE Blows

    Okay Guys, Hockey East sucks with the exception of BC

  • Mountain Man

    For all you Suey fags out there in your green sweaters and queer Sue-sue chants, you won’t even make it to the Frozen 4 as you’re going down to Denver in the quarters.

  • Matto

    Some quick stats I just ran: Here are the records of each conference, against teams from other conferences, in the NCAA tournament (intra-conference opponents not included):

    Last 4 years (2007-2010):
    Hockey East: 19-8
    CCHA: 14-11
    Atlantic: 3-4
    WCHA: 7-11
    CHA: 2-5
    ECAC: 3-9

    Last 2 years (2009-2010):
    Hockey East: 10-3
    Atlantic: 3-2
    WCHA: 4-5
    CCHA: 4-7
    CHA: 2-3
    ECAC: 2-5

    During *all* of this time, WCHA boosters — and KRACH — would have had us believe that the WCHA was the unquestioned best conference in college hockey.

    I’m not seeing it here. I have a suspicion I won’t be seeing it next weekend, either.

  • Maize-ing

    Go Blue!