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ECAC Hockey picks: Nov. 22-27

Friday, November 22

Yale at Colgate
This is suddenly shaping up as the most compelling game of the weekend. Yale (2-0-2) and QU (5-0-1) are the only remaining unbeatens in league play, but the Raiders (4-2-0) are making an early run up the ladder and can establish some late-autumn street cred with a take-down of the champs. The Bulldogs better have some bite in their game, having played only once in the last two weeks (Saturday’s 5-1 win over Sacred Heart). This game had better be a sell-out, Raiders fans: The last time a defending national championship team played in Hamilton was [insert long-ago date here]. Not this millenium, in any case. I’m taking Yale, but with hesitation: 3-2 Bulldogs.

Brown at Cornell
The Big Red return home after a disappointing 1-2-1 road swing, hoping to re-discover some of its recently missing offense. Cornell scored only 10 goals in its last five games, and five of those were at St. Lawrence last Saturday. Brown is still a bit of an unknown, and it’s borderline stupid to predict anything other than a close game when Bruno is involved… especially when it’s an Ivy League affair. In the end, something’s got to give: Brown is struggling to hold opponents under three goals; Cornell is battling to bury that many. Picking a 3-3 tie is weak, so let’s say 3-2 Cornell.

Quinnipiac at Princeton
There is really no good reason to pick against QU right now, especially when it’s Princeton on the docket… the Tigers’ only wins this year have come against Dartmouth, and both of those were in the Garden State. 5-2 Bobcats.

Rensselaer at Mercyhurst
The Lakers are only 1-5-1 outside Atlantic Hockey, but are 3-1 at home overall, and Rensselaer is in no position to overlook any opponent following last week’s home-and-home sweep against Union. RPI is loaded with talent and experience, and Scott Diebold is playing well as the No. 1 following Jason Kasdorf’s (potentially) season-ending injury. This is wake-up time for the Engineers, who have yet to play like the league’s top team that some preseason polls predicted. 4-2 RPI.

St. Lawrence at RIT
RIT is 1-6-2 this year, and 0-3 at home. These games are SLU’s, should the Saints step up and take them. 4-1 Saints.

Saturday, November 23

Brown at Colgate
Raiders will either be rolling, or looking to rebound come Saturday night. Either way, I like their odds at Starr. 3-2 ‘Gate.

Yale at Cornell
Another marquee game, Yale currently appears to be in better shape than the Red. Cornell and goalie Andy Iles have played eight games, allowing either two or three goals in all eight, but as previously stated, the offense has yet to find a groove. Yale’s goaltending has been better, its offense has been more reliable, and that will be a tough match-up for the home side. 4-3 Blue.

Princeton at Quinnipiac
Round 2 should look a lot like Round 1… if not worse, since we’re in Hamden. 5-2 QU.

Rensselaer at Mercyhurst
Again, if RPI is the team many of us thought it would be, now is the time to open the throttle. 4-2 Engineers.

St. Lawrence at RIT
Amazing how many sweeps I’m predicting this weekend, but I’m being honest. Given what we’ve seen on the ice, SLU should take both games in a relatively dominant manner. 4-2 SLU.

Tuesday, November 26

Niagara at Cornell
The Purple Eagles are 0-5 outside Atlantic Hockey and 0-5-1 away from home. This is another on-paper mismatch, and paper’s all we’ve got to go on right now. 5-2 Big Red.

Harvard at New Hampshire
Harvard has shown flashes of talent and proficiency, but boy was that Boston College loss a beat-down. UNH is rising at the same moment that Harvard is tumbling… 4-1 Wildcats.

Wednesday, November 27

Providence at Quinnipiac
One of the best games in the nation over the next two weeks pits two top-five teams in Hamden on the day before Thanksgiving. The Friars are 9-1-1 entering this weekend; QU, 11-1-1. PC goalie Jon Gillies holds an otherworldly .949 save rate and a 1.59 GAA; QU’s Michael Garteig, .924/1.53. This is going to be a heavy-hitting, low-scoring, size-em-up-and-knock-em-down kinda game. I’m salivating already. 2-1 Bobcats in a thriller.

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  • NDFangasm

    You keep beating a dead horse with these Hobey updates. I’m a Sioux fan and I still think it should be Miele (whom I’ve only see play twice). He has the most points, his team was top 4 and he’s never had a character issue. It’s a pretty open and shut thing if you ask me. I love Fratts, but he has 11 less points. That’s an extra assist of goal every 3-4 games. Plus, Frattin plays on a stacked team. He doesn’t wan the Hobey anyway, he wants the National Championship and then a Stanley Cup in Toronto.

    • Joe C

      I wish Frattin and North Dakota (along with all the other teams at the Frozen Four) to have a successful tournament. However, I will not translate any good wishes to the Maple Leafs.

      There is a lot of hair-splitting going on in this Hobey analysis. Frattin looks like the best player in college hockey this year. I did not see enough of Miele (other than the NCAA tourney) to make a fair judgment about him. I did see a ton of Cam Atkinson, mostly schooling my Terriers and the rest of Hockey East. If most people are calling it a two-horse race, than both Frattin and Miele must have had very good years.

      North Dakota seems to me to be a very dominant college hockey team this year, one that comes at teams in wave after wave. The difference in goals or assists, level of competition, etc. are very marginal.

      Finally, Hobey does love goals. I thought that Brad Thiessen should have won in 2009, he CARRIED that Northeastern team to the tournament. He just won the award in the AHL for best goaltender. Of course, Matt Gilroy is playing for the Rangers right now, so maybe it was a good call after all.

      • Duh!

        Didn’t see much of him on Thursday!


    • Guest

      I wouldn’t go as far to say as he doesn’t want the hobey. If he had to choose between it and a championship, I would bet he would choose the champioship everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Frattin does play on a stacked team, but Miele plays on a stacked line. And because Frattin plays on a stacked team that rolls four lines, he plays less than Miele, because Miami only rolls three lines.

  • achybreaky

    Elliot, why do they have your dumbass writing articles here? I hope they don’t pay you much. Afterall, you have less knowledge than Berry Melrose when it comes to college hockey.

    • Duh!

      Sioux are…


      and the fans are…


      (but I have to admit that your Berry Melrose jab was pretty good).

  • achybreaky

    My drunk friend wrote that comment. I agree with everything besides the Barry Manilow comment.

    • J

      you are a sad sad sad person….oh and its Melrose

      • achybreaky

        You are a sad person… oh and I know its Melrose

  • Guest

    Its getting a little tiring hearing you lobby for Miele every single column. I understand comparing the ups and downs of each player, but at what point have you even tried to find a statistic that favors Frattin over Miele?

    • Anonymous

      He is not lobbying for anyone. He is trying to lay out the information, it just so happens that Miele is winning the majority of the comparisons.

      Yeah NoDak is still playing, we got it!

      • Guest

        1. I said nothing about ND still playing.
        2. There are numerous comparisons that Frattin wins. Physical play, the fact that frattin has more goals than miele has primary assists. Not to mention the fact the Olshansky refuses to mitigate any of his statistics with other statistics. For instance, instead of comparing Frattin and Miele when playing playoff teams, he could have made the much less dubious comparison of when Frattin and Miele have played the same teams, which, as I have demonstrated, Frattin rather clearly wins.

        • Anonymous

          I put the still playing thing in there to stop that debate comparing a Team accomplishment versus and individual accomplishment. Like so many NoDak fans are posting.

          You make some good points, I am not sure I agree with them. Physical Play? Frattin is bigger, but Miele is not a slouch in the corners, if you saw him play, you would see he is as physical as a 5″8 player can be. Frattin wins that comparison

          More goals then primary assists, but not more goals and primary assist combined. I don’t have the stats for Frattin, but a I am confident the comparison would favor Miele’s 24 goals and 31 Primary Assists would exceed Frattin’s 36 goals and ???? Primary Assists. Check it out and let me know.

          Elliot made a valid comparison that embodies a majority of all pertinent information available and tried to find a common denominator to compare all three candidates. His goal was not to find a comparison to prove Miele was a better player. If it had been, he would not have succeeded, because the comparison favors Atkinson over Miele, and Frattin.

          Anybody can take a look at all the stats and find a comparison for the player they feel is the better player, you just did above, and so did I in response.

          At some point, opinion needs to be thrown out the door. There needs to be a benchmark that everyone agrees to in order to decide who deserves to win a judged accolade. Think gymnastics, figure skating, boxing to an extent.

          Elliot thought this was a good benchmark, no fault in that.

          • Guest

            Frattin has 36 goals and 19 primary assists, making them tied in that category.

          • Guest

            Its not that he’s trying to find a comparison that makes Miele look better, its that he is ignoring comparisons that make Frattin look better.

      • collegehockeyfan

        i think he meant for example, have they looked at plus-minus? I honestly have no clue, maybe Atkinson is leading in that catagory, who knows, anything but goals, assists and character are the only components that have been brought up in some 4 or 5 articles on the Hobey Race…

  • hopeonboard

    Ellliot, why does ND 43 games played being compared to Miami and BC 39, and 38 games in total goals & pts? and not conference only games?

    • Guest

      Its because they get extra games for playing in Alaska.

    • Guest

      And their conference tournament structure.

      • hopeonboard

        Thank you, I am new to this game. Then… if you play five more games (43-38) and play weaker teams and then score more goals, you are considered the “best” by some. Not cricket!

        • Guest

          Note, ND has a more difficult strength of schedule, and those “weaker teams” that Frattin scored a lot of goals against (specifically MTU) have a very good record this year against the CCHA. (MTU, I believe was either 2-0 or 2-1.)

  • Jmurie

    Granted, I didn’t see much of Miele play this year. He plays on a line with two other all-american calibur forwards, and in a weaker division than Frattin. Anyone who has watched Frattin play this year can attest that he is physically dominanty over his competition night in and night out. He plays a style of hockey that is very very fun to watch – and he’s best the goal scorer in the country…

    His “Character Issue” in my opinion is not an issue at all. In fact, I see it as a strength. It takes a helluva lot of guts to go through what he did, put his ego aside, and come back to the team with no scholarship, no garuntee of ever playing again, and EARN his spot back with North Dakota. His growth and maturity over the past year and a half goes to show what a great family he has, and what a excellent staff they have at North Dakota. To me, that’s what the Hobey is all about.

    • Miami Fan

      carter hasn’t played on miele’s line since the third week of the season. Line 1 Miele, Smith, Vogelhuber. Line 2 Camper, Cannone, Paulazzo.

  • Sioux guy

    “This is why I’ve been reluctant to include Atkinson alongside Miele and Atkinson when doing my final analyses.”

    Elliot, do you even proofread the garbage you write? I’m assuming you mean you’re reluctant to include Atkinson alongside Miele and “Frattin” (not Atkinson)… Let me guess, sick again? Then do us a favor, stop writing and go home.

    • Elliot Olshansky

      No, it was just a stupid mistake. Ever made one of those?

      • Anonymous

        As an unbiased writer you seem to get your panties in a bunch more than usual Elliot… maybe you aren’t cut out for the job of analyzing sports and taking heat for it…. grow a pair and admit your mistakes….

  • Where Eagles Dare

    hmmm, Frattin and his timid Sue choke once again. 2000 was the last decade. They’ll go at least 5 more years without an NC !

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