Denver continues to develop championship mindset after sweeping archrival Colorado College

Henrik Borgström of Denver. Omaha vs. Denver at Magness Arena, 01/27/17. (Candace Horgan)
Henrik Borgström has been an offensive force this season for Denver, leading the Pioneers with 15 goals and 27 points (photo: Candace Horgan).

On a weekend where No. 1 Minnesota Duluth was off, No. 2 Denver played a weekend series against archrival Colorado College, a team that until recently had always troubled Denver.

However, the Pioneers swept the weekend series, 2-1 and 5-1, and have now won 12 straight against CC and 14 of their last 16.

The two games were very different, according to DU coach Jim Montgomery, in part because of CC’s defensive play. Ironically, the bigger ice sheet at CC’s home rink, World Arena, proved to be an advantage for Denver.

“I think that on Friday night, CC did a terrific job of defending,” said Montgomery. “We had the puck a lot — we just had a tough time penetrating scoring areas — and I thought that on the bigger ice surface, we were able to penetrate a little easier.”

Friday, the Pioneers were paced by senior defenseman Will Butcher, who had two assists, and leading scorer Henrik Borgström had an assist on the game-winning goal by Jarid Lukosevicius.

Saturday, senior assistant captain Evan Janssen assisted on the first goal and scored the third goal, and Liam Finlay had two assists. Borgström also scored a highlight-reel goal that put the kibosh on any CC rally.

“That’s been a fun part of this year — it’s been someone different every night, whether it’s (Troy) Terry, (Dylan) Gambrell, or Liam Finlay and players like Michael Davies or Adam Plant stepping up, and Tanner Jaillet has been a rock for us in net,” said Montgomery.

Jaillet, a junior, has played in every game in the second half except for one. He is currently ranked fourth among goaltenders nationally with a 1.82 GAA and is seventh among goalies in save percentage with a .932.

“He just gives our entire bench confidence,” said Montgomery of his goaltender. “He sees the puck well, he tracks it well, there are no rebounds lying around to make you nervous, and he’s great at handling the puck behind our net.”

One area that Denver has improved on in the second half has been its power play. Last year, the power play clicked 18.44 percent of the time. The unit was led by Danton Heinen and Trevor Moore up front and included defenseman Nolan Zajac. Quentin Shore was also often on the first power-play unit. All four of those players were gone at the start of the year, and the power play struggled to find its footing at first.

However, Denver’s power play is now even stronger than it was last season, ranked 13th nationally and clicking at a 20.57 percent success rate.

“I think our power play in the last six weeks or so has really developed a swagger and an attitude to it, and you can see the confidence in both units when they step on the ice,” said Montgomery. “It’s nice because last year we were never really comfortable with the confidence of our power play and this year, it’s a great time for our power play to start developing the confidence leading up to what will hopefully be the postseason.”

Denver has now won five in a row, and eight of its last 10. By sweeping Colorado College, the Pioneers also moved into first place in the NCHC, one point ahead of Duluth. This weekend, the Pioneers play Miami. The last time the teams faced off in November, Denver had just ascended to the number one ranking in the country, and had a disappointing weekend against the RedHawks, getting two ties.

With Duluth hot on their heels in the race for the Penrose Cup, awarded to the regular-season champion in the NCHC, Montgomery knows his team needs to be strong out of the gate.

“I think we have to be greasier and have more willingness to get to the net front,” said Montgomery. “We know how well-coached Miami is and how hard they are to play against. Ever since I’ve been here, we’ve never won two games in a row against Miami. We know we have our work cut out for us, especially being on the road at Oxford.”

St. Cloud State ascends to possible NCAA tournament berth

Last weekend, St. Cloud State found itself in a familiar position: tied late in the game on a Saturday night.

However, unlike the previous few times, St. Cloud got a late goal, then sealed the win against Miami with an empty-netter, earning its first weekend sweep since Nov. 11-12, 2016.

“Saturday, it was so familiar to all the other Saturdays we’ve had this month: it was 1-1 in the third,” said St. Cloud coach Bob Motzko. “We were 1-1 in the third with North Dakota, we were 1-1 in the third with Duluth. Very tight games and it comes down to making a play. I don’t think there is a big explanation. We have been playing very good hockey. We’re not scoring at a high rate, but I’m not sure who is, and we found a way to score with two and a half minutes to go in the third period on a nice play. We’ve got effort every night, real decent execution, but usually on Saturdays the last month, if we make one play we are in a much better situation, instead of overtime losses.

“We finally got ourselves a win.”

St. Cloud went 8-7-1 in the first half, and opened the second half with a loss against Connecticut in the Desert Hockey Classic. It seemed as if the Huskies’ defense was too porous at times, and missed the presence of Charlie Lindgren in net.

However, since that loss to Connecticut, freshman Jeff Smith has settled down in net, and while St. Cloud’s record in the second half is only 7-7-0, they have played well since getting swept by Miami on Jan. 6-7, the nadir of their season, and have gained success in part due to Smith’s play, as he helped limit the opposition to three or less goals in every game but one.

“The first half, we weren’t going to win a whole lot with the goals we were giving up,” explained Motzko. “That’s not putting all the blame on goaltending. I think we’ve come a long way with our defensive play and have come full circle with our goaltending. We put ourselves back in a good position. We still have so much left to fight for, but it is our defensive play that has been able to do it for us.”

One reason things have taken a while for St. Cloud to develop is the changing nature of the team. Last season, St. Cloud was led by five seniors, and had four players scoring over a point a game and two more at close to that mark. The Huskies had one of the most potent offenses in the country, and seemed to score at will at times.

This season, by contrast, St. Cloud doesn’t have a single player averaging a point a game or better. Sophomore Mikey Eyssimont leads the team in scoring with 26 points, and the Huskies lean on him to come up with the big offensive plays.

“We need that from Mikey because he is the one guy returning that has the ability to put offense in consistently,” said Motzko. “What I like most about Mikey is last year, he played on a line where things came easy for him, with a 50-point center in Kalle Kossila and a big strong wing in Patrick Russell. We’ve had to switch up lines all year long, and Mikey has had to work hard at not getting frustrated and staying the course. None of us are going to score like we did last year, and I think it’s taken us half a year to realize that, and just know who we are.”

With St. Cloud’s improved play over the last four weeks, the Huskies have moved up to 12th in the PairWise rankings, in position for another NCAA tournament berth. They area also fourth in the NCHC standings, in possession of the final home ice spot, though North Dakota and Omaha trail by only two points, and North Dakota has two games in hand. Motzko knows there is still a lot of hockey to be played, and if his players want to make the NCAA tournament again, they can’t look too far ahead.

“From an NCAA standpoint, we were on life support; now we are off life support, but we are still in critical condition,” said Motzko. “We have got to continue to battle and the recipe for us has been weekend to weekend, keeping our focus on each weekend and getting as many points and wins as we can and not looking past them. We have been skirting off the bubble, on the bubble the entire second half, so why change now? We know we are vulnerable, and the only thing that can solve it is being successful and we just have to concentrate week to week. We don’t have enough in the bank to sit back.”

NCHC Players of the Week

Offensive Player of the Week – Sheldon Dries, Western Michigan: Dries earned six points on the weekend, helping Western Michigan to a road split with Omaha. In Friday’s 7-6 come-from-behind win, Dries had two goals and two assists, scoring twice in the first six minutes of the game, including once short-handed. He assisted on his team’s final two goals over the last six minutes of the game as Western rallied from 6-5 down, including setting up the tying goal while short-handed with a long pass. He finished the game plus-3 and was named the game’s third star. Saturday, he had two more assists as Western rallied from a 3-0 deficit to tie it 3-3 before losing 6-3. He finished the weekend plus-4.

Defensive Player of the Week – Luc Snuggerud, Omaha: Snuggerud had four points on the weekend as Omaha earned a split with No. 8 Western Michigan. Friday, he had three points, getting Omaha’s scoring started with an assist on a power-play goal and then later scoring a power-play goal in the period. He finished plus-1 and was named the game’s second star. Saturday, he scored a power-play goal in the third period to put Omaha up 5-3. He anchored a penalty kill that killed five of Western’s seven power plays. His 11 goals are tops among defensemen nationally.

Rookie of the Week -Jeff Smith, St. Cloud State: Smith helped St. Cloud earn its first weekend sweep since November by posting a .942 save percentage and 1.50 GAA in a series against Miami. Friday, he made 30 saves in a 4-2 win, including 12 in the third period. Both goals he gave up were while St. Cloud was short-handed. He was named the game’s third star. Saturday, he made 19 saves in a 3-1 win, and again was named the game’s third star.

Goaltender of the Week -Tanner Jaillet, Denver: Jaillet helped Denver earn another sweep of arch-rival Colorado College, and Denver’s 12th win in a row over the Tigers. Friday, he made 14 saves in a 2-1 win and helped Denver kill both CC power plays. Saturday, he made22 saves, including 11 in the third period, and only gave up a power-play goal. He had a .947 save percentage on the weekend and a 1.00 GAA. His 1.82 GAA and .932 save percentage lead all NCHC goalies.

268 COMMENTS

    • Who is reporting it? If it was anyting reputable, wouldnt Schlossman from the GF Herald have it? Why would UND leave the NCHC? I cant see any reason they would benefit from it.

      • If I may play devil’s advocate…
        Points can be made pro and con for the following:
        1. Money – How would Nodak’s share of Big Ten Network cash compare to whatever they’re getting now from CBSSN. I presume current local cable deals would remain in place, just like with UM & MSU with their local Comcast outlets.
        2. Renewing rivalries with 4 old WCHA foes (MN, WI, MI, MSU) vs dropping 3 old WCHA foes (UMD, DU, CC – UNO, StC really aren’t *old* rivals, WMU & M/O can’t even be called “rivals” yet). Remember that old NCHC opponents could still be scheduled as non-conference games.
        3. Overall athletic program. Beyond hockey, how many NCHC schools field D1 teams in anything, and in what leagues? Right off-hand, I know that WMU and M/O field D1 teams in the Mid-American Conference, considered a mid-major. Like it or not, the Big Ten is Big League.
        Are these enough to lure Nodak into the B1G. I don’t know. I’m thinking the money would have to be awfully good.

          • Budget or not, why would UND want to leave an already established, great conference? And as previously asked, what “reputable” sources on twitter are saying UND is talking with big ten?

          • Like I said, getting a tiny percentage of big ten money would save multiple sports in their athletic program. I’m not gonna post the link here because it’s off a pay site, do a little digging, you’re a big boy, it’s the same guy who had notre Dame joining big ten hockey three months before it was announced and had Nebraska in the big ten much before that was announced.

          • We don’t need links….just names. And like I said before, if there was even anything in the air, Schlossman would be all over it.
            And many people like to point out that UND wouldn’t fit some academic thing that the big ten has.

          • Schlossman is in bed w the UND program, if he ruffles feathers his livelihood is threatened, if they tell him to stay quiet he stays quiet, you have to go to someone in a big media market who doesn’t care about ruffling feathers. Not someone who operates in a town which considers Olive Garden fine cuisine.

          • Apparently you’ve never read anything that Schlossman has written. He’s done many pieces on pros and cons of going to the big ten and why it would be a bad move. He does not work for the university. He tells it like it is, pure and simple. Don’t give me the “he’s in bed” with them crap.

          • Even your boy sparky says schlossman would never report on something like this. Get your head out of the sand. Is this the senator from North Dakota who suggested his wife enjoys making his meals as evidence that supports North Dakota’s “blue” laws in which places of business either have to open late or not at all? That state is stuck in 1971 while it’s 2017 for the rest of the country.

          • Enlighten us as to why he wouldnt report on something like this? If it were anything even remotely true, you can bet he’d be on it. Not sure why you believe that the school feeds him a story and that is the only thing he reports on. You might want to try reading some stuff and figure out that he reports it as it is, but I’m sure you have your hands full with some awesome pay for “news” pages.

          • UND tells him what he can and cannot report, he is a small time, small town beat reporter who knows who butters his bread. He cannot do anything to upset UND because UND is what is allowing him to have an income.

            By the way, UND just announced it has to cut 1.3 million out of its athletic budget and “everything is on the table”.

          • Still waiting for your “mystery” news source. So one person writes a story and its 100% correct huh? Funny how not a single other new outlet has anything. Now I’ve heard it all. Lets all be sure to make sure to get our college hockey updates from you. Shouldn’t you be spending your time trying to write your name correctly so you have a slight possibility of getting into college?

          • I graduated from the university of st Thomas in st Paul 15 years ago, I didn’t apply to UND as I enjoy cities with modern amenities and doesn’t look like it’s 1982. Not the hole that is grand forks.

          • What excuse have I used? Notice I’m not calling you names, I stopped doing that at 10 years old. Enjoy your state the rest of the country insults.

          • You’re apparently too good to name this amazing “source” for a story that has absolutely no merit. I’m done wasting time with morons, like yourself.

          • I’m not naming my source because you are demanding it, you calling me a moron gives me the satisfaction of doing something right, thank you for the affirmation.

          • Any financial gain would be used up by the fact that nearly every conf game would require a flight. There is no chance this happens.

          • No to mention, I just am praying this doesn’t happen. The league is a joke and bringing Notre Dame in will help a little but these are not schools that really care about hockey. Even MN is starting to lean more and more to hockey and putting huge investments there while you don’t see them doing it for hockey. If UND gets asked, I hope they publicly say no thank you so that we all know it happened.

          • Indeed they are, and thanks for pointing that out.
            Per Wiki, DU, UND and UNO join WMU and M/O as being D1 schools competing in the Big Sky and Summit Leagues – two mid-major conferences, like the MAC. Of the 5 D1 schools however, only 3 (UND and the two MAC teams) offer football – DU and UNO do not.
            Outside of hockey, UMD & St. Cloud are D2 and CC (no football either) is D3. Perhaps a better question would’ve been “what “revenue-producing” teams do the NCHC schools field, and how many ‘non-revenue’ teams must they support”?
            Anyway, I think the point still stands – an invite to the B1G would indeed be a step up for UND.
            On an unrelated note, while looking all this stuff up, I found that UND was *already* in the process of moving conferences from the Big Sky to the Summit league – except for football and hockey (which isn’t sponsored). On the one hand, UND joins DU and UNO in the Summit League. On the other, if they’re moving teams from one conference to another, what’s one more?
            I have no dog in this particular fight, but it ought to be an interesting story to follow. Pass the popcorn, please.

          • Don’t forget DU’s D1 men’s and women’s soccer teams….

            DU’s men’s team made the final four this past season and the women’s team has been a force for the past several seasons.

            Also, DU perennially has the best ski team in the country – though, talk about a niche sport….

          • I did not mention ski championships, since no NCHC schools compete. Soccer teams had good run this year but are not perennially top tier. DU has won Presidents Cup six of last seven years. Also, not known to a lot of people since it is for non-football schools.

    • Highly unlikely this would ever happen. Every school in Big Ten is highly accredited as a research institution. Nothing against UND academics but they would simply not fit this requirement.

      • And the fact that I’ve never once heard a UND fan say they would absolutely love to go all the way to Ohio to watch a couple games……..or Pennsylvania…..
        Much easier to drive to Duluth, St. Cloud, Omaha instead of flights everywhere.

        • All the way to (Miami) Ohio, you say? OK.
          I suppose when you’re coming from Grand Forks in the wintertime, then places like Omaha, St. Cloud, Kalamazoo really *are* garden spots. I went to MTU, so I can relate…
          Edit: Cheap shot aside, I do remember the short-lived experiment with Michigan Tech and the CCHA. Tech made the switch in order to maintain the rivalries with the other WCHA teams that moved (UMich, MSU, Notre Dame) and to establish rivalries with the other two U.P. teams (Northern and Lake State). After a couple of years, they found that, even factoring the plane trip to Colorado they traveled further in the CCHA than they did with the old WCHA. With that in mind, your point is well taken. The cheap shot still stands, though…

          • I’m just talking about basically having to fly everywhere. Not so much on weather. Although it has been nice to be in Omaha when it’s 60 degrees outside.

          • Honest Question: Where does UND fly now? Do you happen to remember if they flew to Ann Arbor/East Lansing in the old WCHA days? Google maps says the following – GF to: Denver (957 miles), CC (1026), WMU (872), M/O (1005), vs ND (816), MSU (948), UMich (967), OSU (1079), PSU (1294).
            Relatively short trips to UMD (266), StC (252), and UNO (499) get replaced by trips to UMN (315) and UW (583).
            Presuming UND flew to every site past 600 miles or so (MTU football busses to Tiffin, OH, 645 miles away) , UND only nets one extra flight per year, right? That seems quite manageable, especially if that extra flight is underwritten by the B1G as part of the deal. As for fan travel, if you’re driving the mileage is greater overall but per site it doesn’t seem that bad except for Happy Valley. The worst part would be having to handle Chicago traffic on each trip, which just sucks out loud.
            Travel for playoffs takes care of itself if you win, since the B1G was going to go to campus sites after this year, right? If not, then not so much, since the three rotating venues would probably be St. Paul (OK), Detroit and Columbus (not so much).

            This idea is getting less and less far-fetched by the minute…

          • Fans. From a fan standpoint. Replace easy drives like Omaha, St. Cloud, Duluth with Ohio, Penn, and Mich schools….flights are needed or have to take off extra time to drive. Obviously UND fans travel well, but they are not going to go as many places if they have to get a flight every time. Especially people that live around GFK. Flights out of there are ridiculously priced.

          • Just curious – how many UND fans currently make the trips to Miami and/or Kalamazoo? How about Denver and/or Colorado Springs? Do they travel by car/bus, or plane? How many are students vs alleged grown-ups like us? UND fans lose exactly *one* short-distance trip per year. See the mileages in my post above. Omaha=Madison . Duluth=Twin Cities Denver=East Lansing. Colorado Springs=Columbus. Kalamazoo=South Bend. Miami=Ann Arbor. Distance differences to GF for EVERY ONE OF THESE PAIRS is less than 100 miles. All that’s left is St. Cloud vs State College, and that’s the one conference “road trip” that non-hardcore UND fans lose. Based on this, I just don’t see travel as a deal killer.
            Now. If you want to say that Denver of Colorado Springs is a better destination for a road trip than, say, Columbus or East Lansing or that Chicago traffic sucks dead rats, then I have no argument for you. I will say this, though – Western/Central PA is some very pretty country.

          • You do realize that Sioux fans live outside of grand forks, right? If you’ve ever read a game story at all, you’d know that Sioux fans fill half the arena in both Denver and Colorado Springs. Why? Because there are a lot of alumni that live in Colorado. I bet they’d love to lose two series each year so they can hop on a plane to ohio and Pennsylvania. Watch tonight’s game against WMU and in two wees against Miami. Both are road series. You won’t find many fans there because they both essentially require a flight. The majority of alumni live in the Twin Cities, easy to get to Duluth, St cloud, omaha. Twin Cities to eastern michigan, ohio, Pennsylvania = flight or long drive. To say everything would be the same is false.

          • Why do the majority of UND alumni live in the twin cities? Living in grand forks makes you wanna upgrade your life huh?

          • Went to virtually every DU and CC game for the past 20 years before moving back to Fargo this year and frankly UND NEVER had half the arena. Anyone that reported that was full of it. We had a lot of fans and they are loud but I never saw half the arena, not once.

          • I went to plenty where it looked pretty half and half. Either way, the point is we will a lot of their arenas, so taking those games away would be stupid for the school and conference.

          • As a Michigan Tech alum living over 500 miles away from campus, I fully realize that UND fans exist outside of GF. I mentioned mileages from GF because someone (ahem) mentioned the cost of flights out of GF as part of the problem. Indeed, the Denver-based UND fans get hosed, but fans/alums based further east (Detroit? Cleveland? Cincy? Pittsburgh? Philly? Toronto?) would have more opportunities to see their team play. I can also imagine the Twin Cities fan base having a cow over this too, but at least plane fare’s cheaper…
            Anyway. It appears that the person that started this discussion has pulled out, which tells me that there probably wasn’t any fire behind the smoke and there’s no point giving any further thought to it. Appreciated hearing your thoughts. Sorry about tonight’s loss, but good luck Saturday night.

          • I can take that as far as Magness Arena. We always get about 1200 Sioux fans, most of which live in Denver. Some have DU season tickets, believe it or not. They just like college hockey and change their attire when UND comes in. Some friends or relatives of these fans come in to visit for the weekend and attend the games. There are plenty of sightseeing places available. Truthfully, these fans are rarely not just great to talk to.

          • Okay, I lived in Denver for 20 years. I don’t think that I remember a game where UND only had 1800 fans until Denver instituted their new ticketing rules a few years ago. usually it was more. And I agree that many were like me and lived in the area but the alumni association at UND usually chartered a flight and it was usually sold out for the Denver and/or CC games (I think they picked on each year if they were out in CO twice).

      • No joke. Whether warranted or not, I can’t see how the Chancellors and Provosts and other academic types of the Big Ten schools would be anything other than apoplectic if North Dakota got an invite.

        With all due respect to North Dakota, Notre Dame and Johns Hopkins are on a different level when it comes to making “exceptions” to the long-standing Big Ten rule prohibiting associate memberships.

        • Man. It’s fun to get these fighting Sioux hawk fans excited. I made the whole thing up, big ten would never accept an institution with the embarrassingly low academic standards of UND.

          • 6 beers
            2 shots for the road
            one shot for the ditch
            and then……..
            bison tipping?

            Oh, ‘academic’ standards. Good school, good rep, may or may not be a possible B1G associate.

          • Your information is incorrect. I called the registrars office and was given the following information for the 2015-2016 academic year.

            Avg ACT incoming frosh: 23
            Avg HS GPA incoming frosh: 3.33

            This places UND slightly above avg for state universities in the USA.

            Interestingly, if you look at ND HS students only, both avg’s go up.

            ND HS avg ACT: 24
            ND HS avg GPA: 3.38

            Thousands of MN HS students enroll at UND every year. This certainly helps UND’s annual revenue, not so much with academic standing.

          • Yeah, I think I read the NDSU standards, UND/NDSU, it’s all the same right?? Thousands of MN students go there because they can’t get in to MN schools, UND gets the bottom of the MN HS student barrel.

          • Well, I just know students from MN lower the school’s academic standing. You can read into that what you will. Facts don’t care about feelings.

          • I’m from MN….why did I go to UND? Was cheaper than MN…and what do ya know? I received the same education as all these MN schools.

          • I know you’re from Minnesota, just speaking about Bones. Obvious, no matter where he went to school he would be the same.

          • I figured you knew as much, I was just attempting to squash his “elitism.”

            Thoughts on DU/Miami this weekend? I’m going DU win and tie.

          • I think a split is good possibility. Hard to sweep on the road in NCHC. What do you think about UND-WMU? A split will probably solidify both teams for qualifying for regionals. Tonight will be great watching both games. UND-WMU on CBSSN at 5:00, DU-Miami on NCHC at 5:30 Denver time. With staggered start I will be able to catch a lot of both games.

          • Staggered starts are nice. Lot of hockey to be had. I’d have to say a split between UND/WMU. Obviously I’d love a sweep, as it will greatly help in pairwise and conference standings, but WMU is just a very heavy, physical team and greatly improved on offense. Schlossman picked a sweep for UND this weekend….hopefully he’s right, but pretty sure it’s been a while since he picked a sweep and it has happened. Jost is back, so that definitely helps.

          • Maybe now that Jost is back, Boeser will not think he has to carry the team on his back. He needs to shoot more and get rid of his fancy drop passes.

          • He had a great game last time out, but yes, definitely just needs to keep shooting. He does have a TON of shots blocked, though.

          • Feel like UND HAS to split, if they get swept this weekend (and it is possible) that is going to be a lot of pressure on the last few weeks of the season. The ideal solution would be UND getting a sweep, then I could sleep a little better at night (but that is not going to happen)

          • DU with a sweep. DU and UMD look unstoppable to me right now as long as they both stay healthy. I hope they go in as the top two 1 seeds overall so that they can only meet in the Final of the FF. They have put together exceptionally good seasons and they deserve the chance to battle it out in the final if they can both get there.

          • No sense in aruins with an idiot that thinks they are elite sine they went to an overpriced college. Something has this moron butthurt.

          • Idiot? Moron? I haven’t been called those names since elementary school? Which is essentially what you need to get in to UND, keep feeding the stereotype chokers!

          • Sure you just “made it up?”

            And, as sparky said, I’d love to hear what the academic standards are at UND.

    • FWIW, a cursory Google search turns up nothing recent, although the topic appeared to be raised in multiple spots last year, around when the Notre Dame-to-the-B1G story broke. I don’t do Twitter, so I can’t speak to that.
      Are you sure that these aren’t your sources?

    • That’s nothing but hearsay. And from a questionable source might I add too (twitter). Fenton has indicated multiples times in the past year that the NCHC is staying where it is with the teams it has.

    • Who is reporting it? If it was anyting reputable, wouldnt Schlossman from the GF Herald have it? Why would UND leave the NCHC? I cant see any reason they would benefit from it.

      • If I may play devil’s advocate…
        Points can be made pro and con for the following:
        1. Money – How would Nodak’s share of Big Ten Network cash compare to whatever they’re getting now from CBSSN. I presume current local cable deals would remain in place, just like with UM & MSU with their local Comcast outlets.
        2. Renewing rivalries with 4 old WCHA foes (MN, WI, MI, MSU) vs dropping 3 old WCHA foes (UMD, DU, CC – UNO, StC really aren’t *old* rivals, WMU & M/O can’t even be called “rivals” yet). Remember that old NCHC opponents could still be scheduled as non-conference games.
        3. Overall athletic program. Beyond hockey, how many NCHC schools field D1 teams in anything, and in what leagues? Right off-hand, I know that WMU and M/O field D1 teams in the Mid-American Conference, considered a mid-major. Like it or not, the Big Ten is Big League.
        Are these enough to lure Nodak into the B1G. I don’t know. I’m thinking the money would have to be awfully good.

          • Budget or not, why would UND want to leave an already established, great conference? And as previously asked, what “reputable” sources on twitter are saying UND is talking with big ten?

          • Like I said, getting a tiny percentage of big ten money would save multiple sports in their athletic program. I’m not gonna post the link here because it’s off a pay site, do a little digging, you’re a big boy, it’s the same guy who had notre Dame joining big ten hockey three months before it was announced and had Nebraska in the big ten much before that was announced.

          • We don’t need links….just names. And like I said before, if there was even anything in the air, Schlossman would be all over it.
            And many people like to point out that UND wouldn’t fit some academic thing that the big ten has.

          • Schlossman is in bed w the UND program, if he ruffles feathers his livelihood is threatened, if they tell him to stay quiet he stays quiet, you have to go to someone in a big media market who doesn’t care about ruffling feathers. Not someone who operates in a town which considers Olive Garden fine cuisine.

          • Apparently you’ve never read anything that Schlossman has written. He’s done many pieces on pros and cons of going to the big ten and why it would be a bad move. He does not work for the university. He tells it like it is, pure and simple. Don’t give me the “he’s in bed” with them crap.

          • Even your boy sparky says schlossman would never report on something like this. Get your head out of the sand. Is this the senator from North Dakota who suggested his wife enjoys making his meals as evidence that supports North Dakota’s “blue” laws in which places of business either have to open late or not at all? That state is stuck in 1971 while it’s 2017 for the rest of the country.

          • Enlighten us as to why he wouldnt report on something like this? If it were anything even remotely true, you can bet he’d be on it. Not sure why you believe that the school feeds him a story and that is the only thing he reports on. You might want to try reading some stuff and figure out that he reports it as it is, but I’m sure you have your hands full with some awesome pay for “news” pages.

          • UND tells him what he can and cannot report, he is a small time, small town beat reporter who knows who butters his bread. He cannot do anything to upset UND because UND is what is allowing him to have an income.

            By the way, UND just announced it has to cut 1.3 million out of its athletic budget and “everything is on the table”.

          • Still waiting for your “mystery” news source. So one person writes a story and its 100% correct huh? Funny how not a single other new outlet has anything. Now I’ve heard it all. Lets all be sure to make sure to get our college hockey updates from you. Shouldn’t you be spending your time trying to write your name correctly so you have a slight possibility of getting into college?

          • I graduated from the university of st Thomas in st Paul 15 years ago, I didn’t apply to UND as I enjoy cities with modern amenities and doesn’t look like it’s 1982. Not the hole that is grand forks.

          • What excuse have I used? Notice I’m not calling you names, I stopped doing that at 10 years old. Enjoy your state the rest of the country insults.

          • You’re apparently too good to name this amazing “source” for a story that has absolutely no merit. I’m done wasting time with morons, like yourself.

          • I’m not naming my source because you are demanding it, you calling me a moron gives me the satisfaction of doing something right, thank you for the affirmation.

          • Any financial gain would be used up by the fact that nearly every conf game would require a flight. There is no chance this happens.

          • No to mention, I just am praying this doesn’t happen. The league is a joke and bringing Notre Dame in will help a little but these are not schools that really care about hockey. Even MN is starting to lean more and more to hockey and putting huge investments there while you don’t see them doing it for hockey. If UND gets asked, I hope they publicly say no thank you so that we all know it happened.

          • Indeed they are, and thanks for pointing that out.
            Per Wiki, DU, UND and UNO join WMU and M/O as being D1 schools competing in the Big Sky and Summit Leagues – two mid-major conferences, like the MAC. Of the 5 D1 schools however, only 3 (UND and the two MAC teams) offer football – DU and UNO do not.
            Outside of hockey, UMD & St. Cloud are D2 and CC (no football either) is D3. Perhaps a better question would’ve been “what “revenue-producing” teams do the NCHC schools field, and how many ‘non-revenue’ teams must they support”?
            Anyway, I think the point still stands – an invite to the B1G would indeed be a step up for UND.
            On an unrelated note, while looking all this stuff up, I found that UND was *already* in the process of moving conferences from the Big Sky to the Summit league – except for football and hockey (which isn’t sponsored). On the one hand, UND joins DU and UNO in the Summit League. On the other, if they’re moving teams from one conference to another, what’s one more?
            I have no dog in this particular fight, but it ought to be an interesting story to follow. Pass the popcorn, please.

          • Don’t forget DU’s D1 men’s and women’s soccer teams….

            DU’s men’s team made the final four this past season and the women’s team has been a force for the past several seasons.

            Also, DU perennially has the best ski team in the country – though, talk about a niche sport….

          • I did not mention ski championships, since no NCHC schools compete. Soccer teams had good run this year but are not perennially top tier. DU has won Presidents Cup six of last seven years. Also, not known to a lot of people since it is for non-football schools.

    • Highly unlikely this would ever happen. Every school in Big Ten is highly accredited as a research institution. Nothing against UND academics but they would simply not fit this requirement.

      • And the fact that I’ve never once heard a UND fan say they would absolutely love to go all the way to Ohio to watch a couple games……..or Pennsylvania…..
        Much easier to drive to Duluth, St. Cloud, Omaha instead of flights everywhere.

        • All the way to (Miami) Ohio, you say? OK.
          I suppose when you’re coming from Grand Forks in the wintertime, then places like Omaha, St. Cloud, Kalamazoo really *are* garden spots. I went to MTU, so I can relate…
          Edit: Cheap shot aside, I do remember the short-lived experiment with Michigan Tech and the CCHA. Tech made the switch in order to maintain the rivalries with the other WCHA teams that moved (UMich, MSU, Notre Dame) and to establish rivalries with the other two U.P. teams (Northern and Lake State). After a couple of years, they found that, even factoring the plane trip to Colorado they traveled further in the CCHA than they did with the old WCHA. With that in mind, your point is well taken. The cheap shot still stands, though…

          • I’m just talking about basically having to fly everywhere. Not so much on weather. Although it has been nice to be in Omaha when it’s 60 degrees outside.

          • Honest Question: Where does UND fly now? Do you happen to remember if they flew to Ann Arbor/East Lansing in the old WCHA days? Google maps says the following – GF to: Denver (957 miles), CC (1026), WMU (872), M/O (1005), vs ND (816), MSU (948), UMich (967), OSU (1079), PSU (1294).
            Relatively short trips to UMD (266), StC (252), and UNO (499) get replaced by trips to UMN (315) and UW (583).
            Presuming UND flew to every site past 600 miles or so (MTU football busses to Tiffin, OH, 645 miles away) , UND only nets one extra flight per year, right? That seems quite manageable, especially if that extra flight is underwritten by the B1G as part of the deal. As for fan travel, if you’re driving the mileage is greater overall but per site it doesn’t seem that bad except for Happy Valley. The worst part would be having to handle Chicago traffic on each trip, which just sucks out loud.
            Travel for playoffs takes care of itself if you win, since the B1G was going to go to campus sites after this year, right? If not, then not so much, since the three rotating venues would probably be St. Paul (OK), Detroit and Columbus (not so much).

            This idea is getting less and less far-fetched by the minute…

          • Fans. From a fan standpoint. Replace easy drives like Omaha, St. Cloud, Duluth with Ohio, Penn, and Mich schools….flights are needed or have to take off extra time to drive. Obviously UND fans travel well, but they are not going to go as many places if they have to get a flight every time. Especially people that live around GFK. Flights out of there are ridiculously priced.

          • Just curious – how many UND fans currently make the trips to Miami and/or Kalamazoo? How about Denver and/or Colorado Springs? Do they travel by car/bus, or plane? How many are students vs alleged grown-ups like us? UND fans lose exactly *one* short-distance trip per year. See the mileages in my post above. Omaha=Madison . Duluth=Twin Cities Denver=East Lansing. Colorado Springs=Columbus. Kalamazoo=South Bend. Miami=Ann Arbor. Distance differences to GF for EVERY ONE OF THESE PAIRS is less than 100 miles. All that’s left is St. Cloud vs State College, and that’s the one conference “road trip” that non-hardcore UND fans lose. Based on this, I just don’t see travel as a deal killer.
            Now. If you want to say that Denver of Colorado Springs is a better destination for a road trip than, say, Columbus or East Lansing or that Chicago traffic sucks dead rats, then I have no argument for you. I will say this, though – Western/Central PA is some very pretty country.

          • You do realize that Sioux fans live outside of grand forks, right? If you’ve ever read a game story at all, you’d know that Sioux fans fill half the arena in both Denver and Colorado Springs. Why? Because there are a lot of alumni that live in Colorado. I bet they’d love to lose two series each year so they can hop on a plane to ohio and Pennsylvania. Watch tonight’s game against WMU and in two wees against Miami. Both are road series. You won’t find many fans there because they both essentially require a flight. The majority of alumni live in the Twin Cities, easy to get to Duluth, St cloud, omaha. Twin Cities to eastern michigan, ohio, Pennsylvania = flight or long drive. To say everything would be the same is false.

          • Why do the majority of UND alumni live in the twin cities? Living in grand forks makes you wanna upgrade your life huh?

          • Went to virtually every DU and CC game for the past 20 years before moving back to Fargo this year and frankly UND NEVER had half the arena. Anyone that reported that was full of it. We had a lot of fans and they are loud but I never saw half the arena, not once.

          • I went to plenty where it looked pretty half and half. Either way, the point is we will a lot of their arenas, so taking those games away would be stupid for the school and conference.

          • As a Michigan Tech alum living over 500 miles away from campus, I fully realize that UND fans exist outside of GF. I mentioned mileages from GF because someone (ahem) mentioned the cost of flights out of GF as part of the problem. Indeed, the Denver-based UND fans get hosed, but fans/alums based further east (Detroit? Cleveland? Cincy? Pittsburgh? Philly? Toronto?) would have more opportunities to see their team play. I can also imagine the Twin Cities fan base having a cow over this too, but at least plane fare’s cheaper…
            Anyway. It appears that the person that started this discussion has pulled out, which tells me that there probably wasn’t any fire behind the smoke and there’s no point giving any further thought to it. Appreciated hearing your thoughts. Sorry about tonight’s loss, but good luck Saturday night.

          • I can take that as far as Magness Arena. We always get about 1200 Sioux fans, most of which live in Denver. Some have DU season tickets, believe it or not. They just like college hockey and change their attire when UND comes in. Some friends or relatives of these fans come in to visit for the weekend and attend the games. There are plenty of sightseeing places available. Truthfully, these fans are rarely not just great to talk to.

          • Okay, I lived in Denver for 20 years. I don’t think that I remember a game where UND only had 1800 fans until Denver instituted their new ticketing rules a few years ago. usually it was more. And I agree that many were like me and lived in the area but the alumni association at UND usually chartered a flight and it was usually sold out for the Denver and/or CC games (I think they picked on each year if they were out in CO twice).

      • No joke. Whether warranted or not, I can’t see how the Chancellors and Provosts and other academic types of the Big Ten schools would be anything other than apoplectic if North Dakota got an invite.

        With all due respect to North Dakota, Notre Dame and Johns Hopkins are on a different level when it comes to making “exceptions” to the long-standing Big Ten rule prohibiting associate memberships.

        • Man. It’s fun to get these fighting Sioux hawk fans excited. I made the whole thing up, big ten would never accept an institution with the embarrassingly low academic standards of UND.

          • 6 beers
            2 shots for the road
            one shot for the ditch
            and then……..
            bison tipping?

            Oh, ‘academic’ standards. Good school, good rep, may or may not be a possible B1G associate.

          • Your information is incorrect. I called the registrars office and was given the following information for the 2015-2016 academic year.

            Avg ACT incoming frosh: 23
            Avg HS GPA incoming frosh: 3.33

            This places UND slightly above avg for state universities in the USA.

            Interestingly, if you look at ND HS students only, both avg’s go up.

            ND HS avg ACT: 24
            ND HS avg GPA: 3.38

            Thousands of MN HS students enroll at UND every year. This certainly helps UND’s annual revenue, not so much with academic standing.

          • Yeah, I think I read the NDSU standards, UND/NDSU, it’s all the same right?? Thousands of MN students go there because they can’t get in to MN schools, UND gets the bottom of the MN HS student barrel.

          • Well, I just know students from MN lower the school’s academic standing. You can read into that what you will. Facts don’t care about feelings.

          • I’m from MN….why did I go to UND? Was cheaper than MN…and what do ya know? I received the same education as all these MN schools.

          • I know you’re from Minnesota, just speaking about Bones. Obvious, no matter where he went to school he would be the same.

          • I figured you knew as much, I was just attempting to squash his “elitism.”

            Thoughts on DU/Miami this weekend? I’m going DU win and tie.

          • I think a split is good possibility. Hard to sweep on the road in NCHC. What do you think about UND-WMU? A split will probably solidify both teams for qualifying for regionals. Tonight will be great watching both games. UND-WMU on CBSSN at 5:00, DU-Miami on NCHC at 5:30 Denver time. With staggered start I will be able to catch a lot of both games.

          • Staggered starts are nice. Lot of hockey to be had. I’d have to say a split between UND/WMU. Obviously I’d love a sweep, as it will greatly help in pairwise and conference standings, but WMU is just a very heavy, physical team and greatly improved on offense. Schlossman picked a sweep for UND this weekend….hopefully he’s right, but pretty sure it’s been a while since he picked a sweep and it has happened. Jost is back, so that definitely helps.

          • Maybe now that Jost is back, Boeser will not think he has to carry the team on his back. He needs to shoot more and get rid of his fancy drop passes.

          • He had a great game last time out, but yes, definitely just needs to keep shooting. He does have a TON of shots blocked, though.

          • Feel like UND HAS to split, if they get swept this weekend (and it is possible) that is going to be a lot of pressure on the last few weeks of the season. The ideal solution would be UND getting a sweep, then I could sleep a little better at night (but that is not going to happen)

          • DU with a sweep. DU and UMD look unstoppable to me right now as long as they both stay healthy. I hope they go in as the top two 1 seeds overall so that they can only meet in the Final of the FF. They have put together exceptionally good seasons and they deserve the chance to battle it out in the final if they can both get there.

          • No sense in aruins with an idiot that thinks they are elite sine they went to an overpriced college. Something has this moron butthurt.

          • Idiot? Moron? I haven’t been called those names since elementary school? Which is essentially what you need to get in to UND, keep feeding the stereotype chokers!

          • Sure you just “made it up?”

            And, as sparky said, I’d love to hear what the academic standards are at UND.

    • FWIW, a cursory Google search turns up nothing recent, although the topic appeared to be raised in multiple spots last year, around when the Notre Dame-to-the-B1G story broke. I don’t do Twitter, so I can’t speak to that.
      Are you sure that these aren’t your sources?

    • That’s nothing but hearsay. And from a questionable source might I add too (twitter). Fenton has indicated multiples times in the past year that the NCHC is staying where it is with the teams it has.

  1. A lot of talk for something that is not going to happen.
    1. What reputable sources? I just asked a reputable source who is in the know….he has not heard word one.
    2. UND is a DI (FCS) school. Outside of CH, it is a member of the Big Sky Conference. This will be changing in two years.
    3. Brad Schlossman would NOT report on this matter (if there is any truth to this story) because he is in the bag for UND and would not be disloyal. I am not criticizing Brad, but this is the situation in GF.
    4. UND is a ‘research institution’ as well. It has a med school, nursing school, pharmacy school, and a law school. Few mid-level schools in the country possess all of these academic institutions.
    5. Lastly, selling a move (to Big 10) to the UND fan base would be nearly impossible. The NCHC is settling in nicely, a change now is simply not in the best interest of the team, university, or fans.

    UND hockey is fine right where it is. We get to watch the very best CH players in the country (in the NCHC) every single week. Fan support is excellent. We have good CH reporters in most cities. And, the NCHC is (currently) recognized as the best CH conference in the country. Why screw this up?

    • I don’t disagree. And, thanks for answering the question “How does UND fit the B1G’s outside-of-athletics worldview”. However, a bigger-picture view may be driving this. If the UND athletic department is struggling, then the money’s got to come from somewhere. I would think that hockey as a revenue source is pretty well maxed out now, since you really can’t sell more tickets and the Englestad estate may never forgive the university for changing names, so what’s left? The move to a non-football conference tells me that a move to drop football at UND might not be far off. Question: Would the overall UND fan base (not just hockey) support a move to the B1G in order to save football?

      • All sports (other than football and hockey) are moving to the Summit League. Football is going to the Missouri Valley Football Conference, which has NDSU, USD SDSU, etc as part of it. So no, football is not going away.

      • North Dakota’s universities (and many other public institutions) were utilizing extra funds supplied by the state legislature based on XS oil tax revenue. Oil prices plummeted, state revenue decreased, and UND was forced to make cuts. I don’t know how the state and higher board of edu plan on tackling finances in the years to come? I am dubious about any purported financial gains UND might see with joining the B10. Admittedly, I have zero knowledge of what those numbers might be.

      • Yeah football is moving to the best FCS conference in the country with NDSU (winners of 5 of the last 6 national championships), SDSU, USD, and a host of great football schools that regularly beat the FBS teams they play. Football at UND is going to be just fine.

    • I honestly don’t know UND would qualify as “research” institution, as far as B1G is concerned. I know that Maryland had med, nursing, and law schools but had to start “upgrading” two years before joining B1G. Nebraska had to do the same, don’t really know the qualifications. I agree with you, would think the UND fan base would not be happy with that move.

      • Research University: Larger universities in the US (generally), defined faculty to student ratio, substantial research ongoing with faculty and post grads (compare this to teaching schools for example), facilities and finances to support said research. This is just a brief summary from my understanding.

        UND does not fit the bill for a research university. I was trying to rustle some feathers of a couple nasty ppl on here…doubt it worked.

        Keep in mind, many of the nation’s top schools are not research universities. This label, in and of itself, does not bestow academic acclaim. DU is a top school and falls into this (non-research) category.

        • Thanks, great reply and information. As usual, you know exactly what you are talking about. Maybe this will put to rest some of the rumors about UND joining B1G, since they don’t meet their requirement’s. It did ruffle some feathers, as least from what people posted. I knew both Nebraska and Maryland had to make changes to meet B1G standards.

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    • Look I like UND as much as anyone. I worked for the alumni association while I was still on campus. But you can’t compare UND academically to the universities in the Big10 so please stop. There is nothing wrong with that, they have put more time and resources (because they have much larger resources) into the academics of their universities. Again not everyone gets to go to Harvard or Yale, or DU or MN, or Penn State, etc. UND is a great school but you are fooling yourself if you think it is on the same level as the institutions in the B1G.

      • Where, in any of my comments, did I compare UND to the B10? My brother was student president of the UND alumni association and I worked very closely with him for 2 years while he held this position. But, this means nothing. You are trying to make an argument of authority (I worked in the alumni assoc) to validate what you are saying. Never do this, it brings nothing to the discussion or debate. People who do this are often grabbing at straws to defend their weak position.

        Listen, read my posts again. At no point did I compare UND to any of the B10 schools. When you see that I made no such claim you can come back here with your mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I’ll be waiting. Thank you. Schadenfreude moment….pending.

        • I felt like it was implied that you were trying to make the case that UND could be a big 10 school with your comments. Guess not. Pump the brakes. If you are waiting for me to say that I am sorry you can just keep waiting.

  2. A lot of talk for something that is not going to happen.
    1. What reputable sources? I just asked a reputable source who is in the know….he has not heard word one.
    2. UND is a DI (FCS) school. Outside of CH, it is a member of the Big Sky Conference. This will be changing in two years.
    3. Brad Schlossman would NOT report on this matter (if there is any truth to this story) because he is in the bag for UND and would not be disloyal. I am not criticizing Brad, but this is the situation in GF.
    4. UND is a ‘research institution’ as well. It has a med school, nursing school, pharmacy school, and a law school. Few mid-level schools in the country possess all of these academic institutions.
    5. Lastly, selling a move (to Big 10) to the UND fan base would be nearly impossible. The NCHC is settling in nicely, a change now is simply not in the best interest of the team, university, or fans.

    UND hockey is fine right where it is. We get to watch the very best CH players in the country (in the NCHC) every single week. Fan support is excellent. We have good CH reporters in most cities. And, the NCHC is (currently) recognized as the best CH conference in the country. Why screw this up?

    • I don’t disagree. And, thanks for answering the question “How does UND fit the B1G’s outside-of-athletics worldview”. However, a bigger-picture view may be driving this. If the UND athletic department is struggling, then the money’s got to come from somewhere. I would think that hockey as a revenue source is pretty well maxed out now, since you really can’t sell more tickets and the Englestad estate may never forgive the university for changing names, so what’s left? The move to a non-football conference tells me that a move to drop football at UND might not be far off. Question: Would the overall UND fan base (not just hockey) support a move to the B1G in order to save football?

      • All sports (other than football and hockey) are moving to the Summit League. Football is going to the Missouri Valley Football Conference, which has NDSU, USD SDSU, etc as part of it. So no, football is not going away.

      • North Dakota’s universities (and many other public institutions) were utilizing extra funds supplied by the state legislature based on XS oil tax revenue. Oil prices plummeted, state revenue decreased, and UND was forced to make cuts. I don’t know how the state and higher board of edu plan on tackling finances in the years to come? I am dubious about any purported financial gains UND might see with joining the B10. Admittedly, I have zero knowledge of what those numbers might be.

      • Yeah football is moving to the best FCS conference in the country with NDSU (winners of 5 of the last 6 national championships), SDSU, USD, and a host of great football schools that regularly beat the FBS teams they play. Football at UND is going to be just fine.

    • I honestly don’t know UND would qualify as “research” institution, as far as B1G is concerned. I know that Maryland had med, nursing, and law schools but had to start “upgrading” two years before joining B1G. Nebraska had to do the same, don’t really know the qualifications. I agree with you, would think the UND fan base would not be happy with that move.

      • Research University: Larger universities in the US (generally), defined faculty to student ratio, substantial research ongoing with faculty and post grads (compare this to teaching schools for example), facilities and finances to support said research. This is just a brief summary from my understanding.

        UND does not fit the bill for a research university. I was trying to rustle some feathers of a couple nasty ppl on here…doubt it worked.

        Keep in mind, many of the nation’s top schools are not research universities. This label, in and of itself, does not bestow academic acclaim. DU is a top school and falls into this (non-research) category.

        • Thanks, great reply and information. As usual, you know exactly what you are talking about. Maybe this will put to rest some of the rumors about UND joining B1G, since they don’t meet their requirement’s. It did ruffle some feathers, as least from what people posted. I knew both Nebraska and Maryland had to make changes to meet B1G standards.

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    • Look I like UND as much as anyone. I worked for the alumni association while I was still on campus. But you can’t compare UND academically to the universities in the Big10 so please stop. There is nothing wrong with that, they have put more time and resources (because they have much larger resources) into the academics of their universities. Again not everyone gets to go to Harvard or Yale, or DU or MN, or Penn State, etc. UND is a great school but you are fooling yourself if you think it is on the same level as the institutions in the B1G.

      • Where, in any of my comments, did I compare UND to the B10? My brother was student president of the UND alumni association and I worked very closely with him for 2 years while he held this position. But, this means nothing. You are trying to make an argument of authority (I worked in the alumni assoc) to validate what you are saying. Never do this, it brings nothing to the discussion or debate. People who do this are often grabbing at straws to defend their weak position.

        Listen, read my posts again. At no point did I compare UND to any of the B10 schools. When you see that I made no such claim you can come back here with your mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I’ll be waiting. Thank you. Schadenfreude moment….pending.

        • I felt like it was implied that you were trying to make the case that UND could be a big 10 school with your comments. Guess not. Pump the brakes. If you are waiting for me to say that I am sorry you can just keep waiting.

  3. I just want to state I have no info or any idea if UND is changing conferences, I don’t care what UND does. I just wanted to see how many fighting hawk feathers I could rustle up and see if they truly are as sensitive as I thought, all my thoughts are now confirmed, thanks everyone!!

          • If you had to go to UND because you could afford it, I suggest start saving your money and maybe your grandkids could afford St Thomas.

          • There’s a difference between afford and smart investment. Only an idiot would spend more money to learn the same stuff. I work with people that went to St. Thomas….guess what? We do the same thing, make the same money, and I have a lot less school debt. But if it makes you feel better cause you had this big badass overpriced education, good for you!

          • Oh, you mean grads of this “elite” institution aren’t handed a golden job right from the start? OH NO! How ever will the elitists survive?

          • If you are an example of St. Thomas graduates, you are definitely not a good recruiting tool. Although, “tool” seems to be apropos.

          • I’m guessing bones had too many late night run ins with the way too hands on priests at his elite catholic college…..is that why you’re so mad, bones? Old memories coming back?

          • I went to UND because it was the school I wanted to attend. Careful, your elitism is starting to show. I love the internet, let’s idiots run their mouths behind a computer screen. Bet if we met face to face there is zero chance you talk like this. Because where I come from if you did, you’ get knocked out. So keep coming with all of your garbage and sit, protected, behind your computer.

          • This has been a social experiment to see how nacho fans react to a created persona, so far I’ve received multiple name calls and now physical threats!! Keep it up guys, you’re all doing good!

          • I didn’t threaten you, just told you the facts. If you talk like that to people you get hit hard in the face. And if it is all a big social experiment the question is why? You writing an essay paper for the aforementioned and highly reputable school you attend?

          • I have to apologize, those of us that grew up in Minnetonka, MN and went to a 40k a year college aren’t familiar with that term, that’s why I come on here, to learn things from redneck country folk.

          • And if the little 10 was going to offer a school the option to play in their very average conf, it probably would be DU or CC, just based on the academics. Both DU and CC are excellent schools. UND just doesn’t fit the criteria to be associated with that group of schools. And frankly neither do a majority of colleges/universities in the country so I am not trying to mock my alma mater with that statement. But the big10 schools have a reputation with academics that is more in line with DU.

          • DU might qualify academically, but not athletically. No baseball or football teams and basketball team horrible. Might compete well in hockey, lacrosse, and gymnastics.

          • Didn’t want to go there? Or are you just a born and bred, MN boy who couldn’t find CO with a little help from an iPhone because you think that the world pretty much starts and stops right there in good old MN?

          • Sounds like an idiot I knew from high school. If it’s not something MN, its crap. Great way of thinking.

          • That would be mutual, doubt you could pass the mental exam. With your attitude you wouldn’t last a semester, academically and socially.

    • Who’s feathers have you rustled? You’ve just confirmed (not that we already didn’t know) that you just need a CT scan. Slow clap for you.

  4. I just want to state I have no info or any idea if UND is changing conferences, I don’t care what UND does. I just wanted to see how many fighting hawk feathers I could rustle up and see if they truly are as sensitive as I thought, all my thoughts are now confirmed, thanks everyone!!

          • If you had to go to UND because you could afford it, I suggest start saving your money and maybe your grandkids could afford St Thomas.

          • There’s a difference between afford and smart investment. Only an idiot would spend more money to learn the same stuff. I work with people that went to St. Thomas….guess what? We do the same thing, make the same money, and I have a lot less school debt. But if it makes you feel better cause you had this big badass overpriced education, good for you!

          • Oh, you mean grads of this “elite” institution aren’t handed a golden job right from the start? OH NO! How ever will the elitists survive?

          • If you are an example of St. Thomas graduates, you are definitely not a good recruiting tool. Although, “tool” seems to be apropos.

          • I’m guessing bones had too many late night run ins with the way too hands on priests at his elite catholic college…..is that why you’re so mad, bones? Old memories coming back?

          • I went to UND because it was the school I wanted to attend. Careful, your elitism is starting to show. I love the internet, let’s idiots run their mouths behind a computer screen. Bet if we met face to face there is zero chance you talk like this. Because where I come from if you did, you’ get knocked out. So keep coming with all of your garbage and sit, protected, behind your computer.

          • This has been a social experiment to see how nacho fans react to a created persona, so far I’ve received multiple name calls and now physical threats!! Keep it up guys, you’re all doing good!

          • I didn’t threaten you, just told you the facts. If you talk like that to people you get hit hard in the face. And if it is all a big social experiment the question is why? You writing an essay paper for the aforementioned and highly reputable school you attend?

          • I have to apologize, those of us that grew up in Minnetonka, MN and went to a 40k a year college aren’t familiar with that term, that’s why I come on here, to learn things from redneck country folk.

          • And if the little 10 was going to offer a school the option to play in their very average conf, it probably would be DU or CC, just based on the academics. Both DU and CC are excellent schools. UND just doesn’t fit the criteria to be associated with that group of schools. And frankly neither do a majority of colleges/universities in the country so I am not trying to mock my alma mater with that statement. But the big10 schools have a reputation with academics that is more in line with DU.

          • DU might qualify academically, but not athletically. No baseball or football teams and basketball team horrible. Might compete well in hockey, lacrosse, and gymnastics.

          • Didn’t want to go there? Or are you just a born and bred, MN boy who couldn’t find CO with a little help from an iPhone because you think that the world pretty much starts and stops right there in good old MN?

          • Sounds like an idiot I knew from high school. If it’s not something MN, its crap. Great way of thinking.

          • That would be mutual, doubt you could pass the mental exam. With your attitude you wouldn’t last a semester, academically and socially.

    • Who’s feathers have you rustled? You’ve just confirmed (not that we already didn’t know) that you just need a CT scan. Slow clap for you.

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