After the results of March 8

How do I see it right now?

Providence
16 Wisconsin vs. 1 Quinnipiac
9 Boston College vs. 8 Denver

Grand Rapids
15 Notre Dame vs. 2 Minnesota
12 Western Michigan vs. 6 St. Cloud State

Toledo
13 Niagara vs. 3 Miami
11 Minnesota State vs. 7 Massachusetts-Lowell

Manchester
14 Rensselaer vs. 4 North Dakota
10 Yale vs. 5 New Hampshire

Some changes to talk about real quickly.

Wisconsin, where did you come from? Northern Michigan and Colorado College dropping as TUCs helped Wisconsin lose four TUC losses, thus helping to turn at least the comparisons with Minnesota State (who’s loss to North Dakota also helped), Robert Morris, Providence and Cornell.

In addition, Notre Dame is hurt by losing two wins as well, and Notre Dame’s TUC record is already pretty bad.

Alaska. That loss last night hurt.

Boston College. That tie hurt last night. The Eagles lost comparisons based on RPI, because of the tie.

Teams that are close to the bubble that can kiss their seasons goodbye with a loss on Saturday night — Alaska and Dartmouth.

We’re getting closer and closer…

36 COMMENTS

  1. If Alaska rebounds and wins their series and Michigan wins theirs, Notre Dame will face a very hot Michigan team next weekend and will likely be eliminated from the NCAA tournament as well as the CCHA tournament if they lose that series.

  2. If Alaska rebounds and wins their series and Michigan wins theirs, Notre Dame will face a very hot Michigan team next weekend and will likely be eliminated from the NCAA tournament as well as the CCHA tournament if they lose that series.

    • Word, and I think it’s the “v. TUCs” category. It makes sense in theory, but little variations on the margin lead to results so perverse it’s outrageous. For one, there’s the problem you point out re Wisconsin (i.e., teams moving in and out of TUC status).

      Second, there’s another problem: near the end of the season, a single loss won’t have a huge impact on RPI because the impact is muted by all the other data points. On the other hand, the v. TUCs category is more sensitive since there are fewer data points; if a team loses to a TUC and moves to 5-6, say, it’s going to lose comparisons. So a team could theoretically be penalized more for a loss to Minnesota, than it would for losing to a non-TUC in terms of total PWR points.

      Maybe it would help to “weight” TUC wins by RPI and reverse-weight TUC losses by RPI. Nevermind, that would solve one problem while making hte other one worse. Ha ha man, I don’t know!

    • This is why BU and Lowell are HAPPY Merrimack won last night. Both had lots of success against Merrimack and Merrimack almost fell out of TUC. Lowell fell to T7 with a loss and BU is T16 with Wisconsin despite beating Hockey East’s cellar dweller.

    • No it isn’t. You are being very subjective and ignorant in your statement. All teams have been affected by the same changes all year. Do I personally like the PW? No…..but It is a very acceptable way to approach the rating system. TUC is a good way to measure wins and losses to tough opponents. But not all teams will be considered tough opponents all year long, thus drop out of the TUC. Now in Wisconsin they have been fortunate to have good teams lose to some games and make their own TUC look better.

    • Word, and I think it’s the “v. TUCs” category. It makes sense in theory, but little variations on the margin lead to results so perverse it’s outrageous. For one, there’s the problem you point out re Wisconsin (i.e., teams moving in and out of TUC status).

      Second, there’s another problem: near the end of the season, a single loss won’t have a huge impact on RPI because the impact is muted by all the other data points. On the other hand, the v. TUCs category is more sensitive since there are fewer data points; if a team loses to a TUC and moves to 5-6, say, it’s going to lose comparisons. So a team could theoretically be penalized more for a loss to Minnesota, than it would for losing to a non-TUC in terms of total PWR points.

      Maybe it would help to “weight” TUC wins by RPI and reverse-weight TUC losses by RPI. Nevermind, that would solve one problem while making hte other one worse. Ha ha man, I don’t know!

    • This is why BU and Lowell are HAPPY Merrimack won last night. Both had lots of success against Merrimack and Merrimack almost fell out of TUC. Lowell fell to T7 with a loss and BU is T16 with Wisconsin despite beating Hockey East’s cellar dweller.

    • No it isn’t. You are being very subjective and ignorant in your statement. All teams have been affected by the same changes all year. Do I personally like the PW? No…..but It is a very acceptable way to approach the rating system. TUC is a good way to measure wins and losses to tough opponents. But not all teams will be considered tough opponents all year long, thus drop out of the TUC. Now in Wisconsin they have been fortunate to have good teams lose to some games and make their own TUC look better.

    • Facing the SCSU-WMU winner is preferable to a UND-WMU winner. Of course, everything will change again in 12 hours.

    • Facing the SCSU-WMU winner is preferable to a UND-WMU winner. Of course, everything will change again in 12 hours.

    • The seeding #’s are solely dependent on the PWR… Winning the Mac trophy really means nothing when seeding for the NCAA’s.

    • You are dumb, and obviously delusional. Yes they have a SHARE!! of the CUP clinched, but in no way is it totally secured. SIOUX YEAH YEAH!!!!

    • The seeding #’s are solely dependent on the PWR… Winning the Mac trophy really means nothing when seeding for the NCAA’s.

    • You are dumb, and obviously delusional. Yes they have a SHARE!! of the CUP clinched, but in no way is it totally secured. SIOUX YEAH YEAH!!!!

  3. I’m curious as to why SOS is not included in the pairwise in some form? Shouldn’t teams who play much tougher schedules get a little compensation for that? no? Just a thought.

  4. I’m curious as to why SOS is not included in the pairwise in some form? Shouldn’t teams who play much tougher schedules get a little compensation for that? no? Just a thought.

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