Where do teams stand with last weekend of January on tap?

 (Melissa Wade)
Where would Boston College start the NCAA tournament if it was to begin today? (photo: Melissa Wade).

We’re at that time of the year where one thing is on everyone’s minds.

Will my team make the NCAA tournament? Where does it sit in the PairWise Rankings (PWR)?

Those of you that are veterans of the college hockey scene know that it is all about the PairWise Rankings. This is USCHO’s numerical approach that simulates the way the NCAA Division I men’s ice hockey committee chooses the teams that make the NCAA tournament.

Since USCHO began the PairWise Rankings, we have correctly identified all of the teams that have been selected to the NCAA tournament.

Five of the last six years, I am the only prognosticator to have correctly predicted the exact brackets for the NCAA tournament, meaning that I have predicted how the committee thought when putting together the brackets.

With that in mind, it’s time once again to do what we like to call Bracketology, college hockey style. It’s our weekly look at how I believe the NCAA tournament might look like come selection time, using what we know now.

It’s a look into the possible thought processes behind selecting and seeding the NCAA tournament teams.

This is not a be-all, end-all analysis of the bracket. I am trying to give you, the reader, an idea of what the committee might be thinking and not exactly what they are thinking.

This is the next installment of Bracketology for 2017, and we’ll be bringing you a new one every week until we make our final picks before the field is announced on March 19.

If you want to skip the inner workings and get to the results of the analysis, then click here.

Here are the facts:

• Sixteen teams are selected to participate in the national tournament.

• There are four regional sites (East – Providence, R.I.; Northeast – Manchester, N.H.; Midwest – Cincinnati, Ohio; West – Fargo, N.D.).

• A host institution that is invited to the tournament plays in the regional for which it is the host and cannot be moved. The host institutions this year: Brown in Providence, New Hampshire in Manchester, Miami in Cincinnati and North Dakota in Fargo.
• Seedings will not be switched. To avoid undesirable first-round matchups, including intra-conference games (see below), teams will be moved among regionals, not reseeded.

Here are the NCAA’s guidelines on the matter, from the 2015 pre-championship manual:

In setting up the tournament, the committee begins with a list of priorities to ensure a successful tournament on all fronts, including competitive equity, financial success and the likelihood of a playoff-type atmosphere at each regional site. For this model, the following is a basic set of priorities:

1. Once the six automatic qualifiers and 10 at-large teams are selected, the next step is to develop four groups from the committee’s rankings of 1-16. The top four teams are No. 1 seeds and will be placed in the bracket so that if all four teams advance to the Men’s Frozen Four, the No. 1 seed will play the No. 4 seed and the No. 2 seed will play the No. 3 seed in the semifinals. The next four are targeted as No. 2 seeds. The next four are No. 3 seeds and the last four are No. 4 seeds.

2. Step two is to place the home teams. Host institutions that qualify will be placed at home.

3. Step three is to fill in the bracket so that first-round conference matchups are avoided, unless it corrupts the integrity of the bracket. If five or more teams from one conference are selected to the championship, then the integrity of the bracket will be protected (i.e., maintaining the pairing process according to seed will take priority over avoidance of first-round conference matchups). To complete each regional, the committee assigns one team from each of the remaining seeded groups so there is a No. 1, No. 2, No. 3 and No. 4 seed at each regional site.

Given these facts, here is the top 16 of the current PairWise Rankings (PWR), and the conference leaders through all games of January 24:

1 Minnesota-Duluth
2 Denver
3 Penn State
4 Boston University
5 Western Michigan
6 Union
7 Minnesota
8 Ohio State
9 Vermont
10 Massachusetts-Lowell
11 Cornell
12 North Dakota
13 Harvard
14 Boston College
15 Providence
16 Omaha
24 Bemidji State
33 Canisius

Current conference leaders based on winning percentage:

Atlantic Hockey: Canisius (wins head-to-head over Air Force)
Big Ten: Minnesota
ECAC Hockey: Union
Hockey East: Boston College
NCHC: Minnesota-Duluth
WCHA: Bemidji State

Notes

• Bracketology assumes that the season has ended and there are no more games to be played — i.e., the NCAA tournament starts tomorrow.

• Because there are an uneven amount of games played inside each conference, I will be using winning percentage, not points accumulated, to determine the current leader in each conference. This team is my assumed conference tournament champion after applying the tiebreakers.

Step one

From the committee’s report, choose the 16 teams in the tournament.

We break ties in the PWR by looking at the individual comparisons among the tied teams, and add in any current league leaders that are not currently in the top 16. The only teams that are not are Canisius and Bemidji State.

From there, we can start looking at the ties and bubbles in a more detailed fashion.

The ties and bubbles consist of none this week.

We break all of our ties based upon the RPI.

Therefore, the 16 teams in the tournament, in rank order, are:

1 Minnesota-Duluth
2 Denver
3 Penn State
4 Boston University
5 Western Michigan
6 Union
7 Minnesota
8 Ohio State
9 Vermont
10 Massachusetts-Lowell
11 Cornell
12 North Dakota
13 Harvard
14 Boston College
15 Bemidji State
16 Canisius

Step two

Now it’s time to assign the seeds.

No. 1 seeds: Minnesota-Duluth, Denver, Penn State, Boston University

No. 2 seeds: Western Michigan, Union, Minnesota, Ohio State

No. 3 seeds: Vermont, Massachusetts-Lowell, Cornell, North Dakota

No. 4 seeds: Harvard, Boston College, Bemidji State, Canisius

Step three

Place the No. 1 seeds in regionals.

No. 1 Minnesota-Duluth is placed in the West Regional in Fargo
No. 2 Denver is placed in the Midwest Regional in Cincinnati.
No. 3 Penn State is placed in the East Regional in Providence.
No. 4 Boston University is placed in the Northeast Regional in Manchester.

Step four

Now we place the other 12 teams so as to avoid intra-conference matchups if possible.

Begin by filling in each bracket by banding groups. Remember that teams are not assigned to the regional closest to their campus sites by ranking order within the banding (unless you are a host school, in which case you must be assigned to your home regional).

If this is the case, as it was last year, then the committee should seed so that the quarterfinals are seeded such that the four regional championships would be played by No. 1 vs. No. 8, No. 2 vs. No. 7, No. 3 vs. No. 6 and No. 4 vs. No. 5.

So therefore:

No. 2 seeds

No. 8 Ohio State is placed in No. 1 Minnesota-Duluth’s regional, the West Regional.
No. 7 Minnesota is placed in No. 2 Denver’s regional, the Midwest Regional.
No. 6 Union is placed in No. 3 Penn State’s regional, the East Regional.
No. 5 Western Michigan is placed in No. 4 Boston University’s regional, the Northeast Regional.

No. 3 seeds

Our bracketing system has one regional containing seeds 1, 8, 9, and 16; another with 2, 7, 10 and 15; another with 3, 6, 11 and 14; and another with 4, 5, 12 and 13.

North Dakota is a host, therefore they are placed first in this pod:

No. 12 North Dakota is placed in No. 8 Ohio State’s regional, the West Regional.
No. 9 Vermont is placed in No. 7 Minnesota’s regional, the Midwest Regional.
No. 10 Massachusetts-Lowell is placed in No. 6 Union’s regional, the East Regional.
No. 11 Cornell is placed in No. 5 Western Michigan’s regional, the Northeast Regional.

No. 4 seeds

One more time, taking No. 16 vs. No. 1, No. 15 vs. No. 2, etc.

No. 16 Canisius is sent to No. 1 Minnesota-Duluth’s regional, the West Regional.
No. 15 Bemidji State is sent to No. 2 Denver’s regional, the Midwest Regional.
No. 14 Boston College is sent to No. 3 Penn State’s regional, the East Regional.
No. 13 Harvard is sent to No. 4 Boston University’s regional, the Northeast Regional.

The brackets as we have set them up:

East Regional (Providence):
14 Boston College vs. 3 Penn State
10 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 6 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Boston University
11 Cornell vs. 5 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
15 Bemidji State vs. 2 Denver
9 Vermont vs. 7 Minnesota

West Regional (Fargo):
16 Air Force vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
12 North Dakota vs. 8 Ohio State

Our first concern is avoiding intraconference matchups. We have none this week.

Now let’s look at maximizing attendance and getting teams closer to their campuses.

One change we can make it swapping Bemidji State and Canisius, putting both of them closer to its campuses. Some will balk and say that the PWR difference is large (24 vs 33), but is it that much? I am willing to say that it’s negligible versus the attendance and close to campus factor.

East Regional (Providence):
14 Boston College vs. 3 Penn State
10 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 6 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Boston University
11 Cornell vs. 5 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
16 Canisius vs. 2 Denver
9 Vermont vs. 7 Minnesota

West Regional (Fargo):
15 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
12 North Dakota vs. 8 Ohio State

One other change I can make is swapping Minnesota with Ohio State. You’ll get plenty of the argument that you’re sending Minnesota to a “home” crowd with North Dakota. But, I can live with it.

East Regional (Providence):
14 Boston College vs. 3 Penn State
10 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 6 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Boston University
11 Cornell vs. 5 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
16 Canisius vs. 2 Denver
9 Vermont vs. 8 Ohio State

West Regional (Fargo):
15 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
12 North Dakota vs. 7 Minnesota

And that looks like it to me.

My bracket for the week.

But remember: There are so many changes between now and the actual bracket announcement.

See you here in a few weeks for the next Bracketology.

Here’s a summary of everything that we have covered.

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Providence):
14 Boston College vs. 3 Penn State
10 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 6 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Harvard vs. 4 Boston University
11 Cornell vs. 5 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
16 Canisius vs. 2 Denver
9 Vermont vs. 8 Ohio State

West Regional (Fargo):
15 Bemidji State vs. 1 Minnesota-Duluth
12 North Dakota vs. 7 Minnesota

Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 4
NCHC — 4
Big Ten — 3
ECAC Hockey — 3
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey – 1

Movement

In: Canisius
Out: Air Force

Last Week’s Bracket

East Regional (Providence):
14 Boston College vs. 3 Minnesota-Duluth
10 Vermont vs. 6 Union

Northeast Regional (Manchester):
13 Ohio State vs. 4 Boston University
11 Cornell vs. 5 Massachusetts-Lowell

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
15 Air Force vs. 1 Penn State
9 Western Michigan vs. 8 Minnesota

West Regional (Fargo):
16 Bemidji State vs. 2 Denver
12 Harvard vs. 7 North Dakota

195 COMMENTS

  1. You keep beating a dead horse with these Hobey updates. I’m a Sioux fan and I still think it should be Miele (whom I’ve only see play twice). He has the most points, his team was top 4 and he’s never had a character issue. It’s a pretty open and shut thing if you ask me. I love Fratts, but he has 11 less points. That’s an extra assist of goal every 3-4 games. Plus, Frattin plays on a stacked team. He doesn’t wan the Hobey anyway, he wants the National Championship and then a Stanley Cup in Toronto.

    • I wish Frattin and North Dakota (along with all the other teams at the Frozen Four) to have a successful tournament. However, I will not translate any good wishes to the Maple Leafs.

      There is a lot of hair-splitting going on in this Hobey analysis. Frattin looks like the best player in college hockey this year. I did not see enough of Miele (other than the NCAA tourney) to make a fair judgment about him. I did see a ton of Cam Atkinson, mostly schooling my Terriers and the rest of Hockey East. If most people are calling it a two-horse race, than both Frattin and Miele must have had very good years.

      North Dakota seems to me to be a very dominant college hockey team this year, one that comes at teams in wave after wave. The difference in goals or assists, level of competition, etc. are very marginal.

      Finally, Hobey does love goals. I thought that Brad Thiessen should have won in 2009, he CARRIED that Northeastern team to the tournament. He just won the award in the AHL for best goaltender. Of course, Matt Gilroy is playing for the Rangers right now, so maybe it was a good call after all.

    • I wouldn’t go as far to say as he doesn’t want the hobey. If he had to choose between it and a championship, I would bet he would choose the champioship everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Frattin does play on a stacked team, but Miele plays on a stacked line. And because Frattin plays on a stacked team that rolls four lines, he plays less than Miele, because Miami only rolls three lines.

  2. You keep beating a dead horse with these Hobey updates. I’m a Sioux fan and I still think it should be Miele (whom I’ve only see play twice). He has the most points, his team was top 4 and he’s never had a character issue. It’s a pretty open and shut thing if you ask me. I love Fratts, but he has 11 less points. That’s an extra assist of goal every 3-4 games. Plus, Frattin plays on a stacked team. He doesn’t wan the Hobey anyway, he wants the National Championship and then a Stanley Cup in Toronto.

    • I wish Frattin and North Dakota (along with all the other teams at the Frozen Four) to have a successful tournament. However, I will not translate any good wishes to the Maple Leafs.

      There is a lot of hair-splitting going on in this Hobey analysis. Frattin looks like the best player in college hockey this year. I did not see enough of Miele (other than the NCAA tourney) to make a fair judgment about him. I did see a ton of Cam Atkinson, mostly schooling my Terriers and the rest of Hockey East. If most people are calling it a two-horse race, than both Frattin and Miele must have had very good years.

      North Dakota seems to me to be a very dominant college hockey team this year, one that comes at teams in wave after wave. The difference in goals or assists, level of competition, etc. are very marginal.

      Finally, Hobey does love goals. I thought that Brad Thiessen should have won in 2009, he CARRIED that Northeastern team to the tournament. He just won the award in the AHL for best goaltender. Of course, Matt Gilroy is playing for the Rangers right now, so maybe it was a good call after all.

    • I wouldn’t go as far to say as he doesn’t want the hobey. If he had to choose between it and a championship, I would bet he would choose the champioship everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Frattin does play on a stacked team, but Miele plays on a stacked line. And because Frattin plays on a stacked team that rolls four lines, he plays less than Miele, because Miami only rolls three lines.

  3. Elliot, why do they have your dumbass writing articles here? I hope they don’t pay you much. Afterall, you have less knowledge than Berry Melrose when it comes to college hockey.

    • Sioux are…

      OVER-RATED

      and the fans are…

      CLASSLESS

      (but I have to admit that your Berry Melrose jab was pretty good).

  4. Elliot, why do they have your dumbass writing articles here? I hope they don’t pay you much. Afterall, you have less knowledge than Berry Melrose when it comes to college hockey.

  5. Its getting a little tiring hearing you lobby for Miele every single column. I understand comparing the ups and downs of each player, but at what point have you even tried to find a statistic that favors Frattin over Miele?

    • He is not lobbying for anyone. He is trying to lay out the information, it just so happens that Miele is winning the majority of the comparisons.

      Yeah NoDak is still playing, we got it!

      • 1. I said nothing about ND still playing.
        2. There are numerous comparisons that Frattin wins. Physical play, the fact that frattin has more goals than miele has primary assists. Not to mention the fact the Olshansky refuses to mitigate any of his statistics with other statistics. For instance, instead of comparing Frattin and Miele when playing playoff teams, he could have made the much less dubious comparison of when Frattin and Miele have played the same teams, which, as I have demonstrated, Frattin rather clearly wins.

        • I put the still playing thing in there to stop that debate comparing a Team accomplishment versus and individual accomplishment. Like so many NoDak fans are posting.

          You make some good points, I am not sure I agree with them. Physical Play? Frattin is bigger, but Miele is not a slouch in the corners, if you saw him play, you would see he is as physical as a 5″8 player can be. Frattin wins that comparison

          More goals then primary assists, but not more goals and primary assist combined. I don’t have the stats for Frattin, but a I am confident the comparison would favor Miele’s 24 goals and 31 Primary Assists would exceed Frattin’s 36 goals and ???? Primary Assists. Check it out and let me know.

          Elliot made a valid comparison that embodies a majority of all pertinent information available and tried to find a common denominator to compare all three candidates. His goal was not to find a comparison to prove Miele was a better player. If it had been, he would not have succeeded, because the comparison favors Atkinson over Miele, and Frattin.

          Anybody can take a look at all the stats and find a comparison for the player they feel is the better player, you just did above, and so did I in response.

          At some point, opinion needs to be thrown out the door. There needs to be a benchmark that everyone agrees to in order to decide who deserves to win a judged accolade. Think gymnastics, figure skating, boxing to an extent.

          Elliot thought this was a good benchmark, no fault in that.

          • Its not that he’s trying to find a comparison that makes Miele look better, its that he is ignoring comparisons that make Frattin look better.

      • i think he meant for example, have they looked at plus-minus? I honestly have no clue, maybe Atkinson is leading in that catagory, who knows, anything but goals, assists and character are the only components that have been brought up in some 4 or 5 articles on the Hobey Race…

  6. Its getting a little tiring hearing you lobby for Miele every single column. I understand comparing the ups and downs of each player, but at what point have you even tried to find a statistic that favors Frattin over Miele?

    • He is not lobbying for anyone. He is trying to lay out the information, it just so happens that Miele is winning the majority of the comparisons.

      Yeah NoDak is still playing, we got it!

      • 1. I said nothing about ND still playing.
        2. There are numerous comparisons that Frattin wins. Physical play, the fact that frattin has more goals than miele has primary assists. Not to mention the fact the Olshansky refuses to mitigate any of his statistics with other statistics. For instance, instead of comparing Frattin and Miele when playing playoff teams, he could have made the much less dubious comparison of when Frattin and Miele have played the same teams, which, as I have demonstrated, Frattin rather clearly wins.

        • I put the still playing thing in there to stop that debate comparing a Team accomplishment versus and individual accomplishment. Like so many NoDak fans are posting.

          You make some good points, I am not sure I agree with them. Physical Play? Frattin is bigger, but Miele is not a slouch in the corners, if you saw him play, you would see he is as physical as a 5″8 player can be. Frattin wins that comparison

          More goals then primary assists, but not more goals and primary assist combined. I don’t have the stats for Frattin, but a I am confident the comparison would favor Miele’s 24 goals and 31 Primary Assists would exceed Frattin’s 36 goals and ???? Primary Assists. Check it out and let me know.

          Elliot made a valid comparison that embodies a majority of all pertinent information available and tried to find a common denominator to compare all three candidates. His goal was not to find a comparison to prove Miele was a better player. If it had been, he would not have succeeded, because the comparison favors Atkinson over Miele, and Frattin.

          Anybody can take a look at all the stats and find a comparison for the player they feel is the better player, you just did above, and so did I in response.

          At some point, opinion needs to be thrown out the door. There needs to be a benchmark that everyone agrees to in order to decide who deserves to win a judged accolade. Think gymnastics, figure skating, boxing to an extent.

          Elliot thought this was a good benchmark, no fault in that.

          • Its not that he’s trying to find a comparison that makes Miele look better, its that he is ignoring comparisons that make Frattin look better.

      • i think he meant for example, have they looked at plus-minus? I honestly have no clue, maybe Atkinson is leading in that catagory, who knows, anything but goals, assists and character are the only components that have been brought up in some 4 or 5 articles on the Hobey Race…

  7. Ellliot, why does ND 43 games played being compared to Miami and BC 39, and 38 games in total goals & pts? and not conference only games?

      • Thank you, I am new to this game. Then… if you play five more games (43-38) and play weaker teams and then score more goals, you are considered the “best” by some. Not cricket!

        • Note, ND has a more difficult strength of schedule, and those “weaker teams” that Frattin scored a lot of goals against (specifically MTU) have a very good record this year against the CCHA. (MTU, I believe was either 2-0 or 2-1.)

  8. Ellliot, why does ND 43 games played being compared to Miami and BC 39, and 38 games in total goals & pts? and not conference only games?

      • Thank you, I am new to this game. Then… if you play five more games (43-38) and play weaker teams and then score more goals, you are considered the “best” by some. Not cricket!

        • Note, ND has a more difficult strength of schedule, and those “weaker teams” that Frattin scored a lot of goals against (specifically MTU) have a very good record this year against the CCHA. (MTU, I believe was either 2-0 or 2-1.)

  9. Granted, I didn’t see much of Miele play this year. He plays on a line with two other all-american calibur forwards, and in a weaker division than Frattin. Anyone who has watched Frattin play this year can attest that he is physically dominanty over his competition night in and night out. He plays a style of hockey that is very very fun to watch – and he’s best the goal scorer in the country…

    His “Character Issue” in my opinion is not an issue at all. In fact, I see it as a strength. It takes a helluva lot of guts to go through what he did, put his ego aside, and come back to the team with no scholarship, no garuntee of ever playing again, and EARN his spot back with North Dakota. His growth and maturity over the past year and a half goes to show what a great family he has, and what a excellent staff they have at North Dakota. To me, that’s what the Hobey is all about.

    • carter hasn’t played on miele’s line since the third week of the season. Line 1 Miele, Smith, Vogelhuber. Line 2 Camper, Cannone, Paulazzo.

  10. Granted, I didn’t see much of Miele play this year. He plays on a line with two other all-american calibur forwards, and in a weaker division than Frattin. Anyone who has watched Frattin play this year can attest that he is physically dominanty over his competition night in and night out. He plays a style of hockey that is very very fun to watch – and he’s best the goal scorer in the country…

    His “Character Issue” in my opinion is not an issue at all. In fact, I see it as a strength. It takes a helluva lot of guts to go through what he did, put his ego aside, and come back to the team with no scholarship, no garuntee of ever playing again, and EARN his spot back with North Dakota. His growth and maturity over the past year and a half goes to show what a great family he has, and what a excellent staff they have at North Dakota. To me, that’s what the Hobey is all about.

    • carter hasn’t played on miele’s line since the third week of the season. Line 1 Miele, Smith, Vogelhuber. Line 2 Camper, Cannone, Paulazzo.

  11. “This is why I’ve been reluctant to include Atkinson alongside Miele and Atkinson when doing my final analyses.”

    Elliot, do you even proofread the garbage you write? I’m assuming you mean you’re reluctant to include Atkinson alongside Miele and “Frattin” (not Atkinson)… Let me guess, sick again? Then do us a favor, stop writing and go home.

      • As an unbiased writer you seem to get your panties in a bunch more than usual Elliot… maybe you aren’t cut out for the job of analyzing sports and taking heat for it…. grow a pair and admit your mistakes….

  12. “This is why I’ve been reluctant to include Atkinson alongside Miele and Atkinson when doing my final analyses.”

    Elliot, do you even proofread the garbage you write? I’m assuming you mean you’re reluctant to include Atkinson alongside Miele and “Frattin” (not Atkinson)… Let me guess, sick again? Then do us a favor, stop writing and go home.

      • As an unbiased writer you seem to get your panties in a bunch more than usual Elliot… maybe you aren’t cut out for the job of analyzing sports and taking heat for it…. grow a pair and admit your mistakes….

  13. hmmm, Frattin and his timid Sue choke once again. 2000 was the last decade. They’ll go at least 5 more years without an NC !

  14. hmmm, Frattin and his timid Sue choke once again. 2000 was the last decade. They’ll go at least 5 more years without an NC !

  15. National champions here in Hamilton. . . and the entire school is gone for Thanksgiving break. Why we need a week for Thanksgiving is beyond me. . .

  16. National champions here in Hamilton. . . and the entire school is gone for Thanksgiving break. Why we need a week for Thanksgiving is beyond me. . .

  17. Brian, Brian, don’t be so lazy. In Hamilton — Colgate beat Defending National Champion Harvard 5-4 in 1989-90. Defending National Champion RPI beat Colgate 3-2 in 1985-86. Colgate beat defending National Champion Boston University 6-5 in 1978-79. Defending National Champion BU beat Colgate 6-2 in 1972-73. Defending National Champion Cornell beat Colgate 9-1 in 1967-1969.

  18. Brian, Brian, don’t be so lazy. In Hamilton — Colgate beat Defending National Champion Harvard 5-4 in 1989-90. Defending National Champion RPI beat Colgate 3-2 in 1985-86. Colgate beat defending National Champion Boston University 6-5 in 1978-79. Defending National Champion BU beat Colgate 6-2 in 1972-73. Defending National Champion Cornell beat Colgate 9-1 in 1967-1968.

    • There was never a problem with ticket sales……been sold out for months. Which sucks for the people without season tickets…..few thousand people fighting over probably 200 tickets.

      • Even some season ticket holders are going to be watching on tv. I have family that has had 4 season tickets since the days of the old Ralph, and they didn’t get drawn for Tickets in Fargo.

        Also, Roman, if you want to troll UND go for it, but at least make it worth our time to read it like Wisco and Ch0kers do. Anyone that can’t troll with anything better than “UND SUCKS” is an embarrassment to the internet.

    • There was never a problem with ticket sales……been sold out for months. Which sucks for the people without season tickets…..few thousand people fighting over probably 200 tickets.

      • Even some season ticket holders are going to be watching on tv. I have family that has had 4 season tickets since the days of the old Ralph, and they didn’t get drawn for Tickets in Fargo.

        Also, Roman, if you want to troll UND go for it, but at least make it worth our time to read it like Wisco and Ch0kers do. Anyone that can’t troll with anything better than “UND SUCKS” is an embarrassment to the internet.

  19. Nice write-up Jason!! However I think you gotta account for Wisco getting the auto-bid after winning the biggy tourn. Might as well pencil them in and bump South Dakota State out! We all agree that would be best. #ONWISCONSON!!

  20. Nice write-up Jason!! However I think you gotta account for Wisco getting the auto-bid after winning the biggy tourn. Might as well pencil them in and bump South Dakota State out! We all agree that would be best. #ONWISCONSON!!

        • I actually just read that the North Star Cup will be discontinued after this season. Maybe Minnesota is sick of losing to their in-state opponents all the time.

          • I’m sure they are but, those other schools want to host MN. They make more money off hosting MN then they do splitting the little profits from the NSCC.

          • No one goes. Place is always pretty empty. It was expected that Goof fans would show up but they don’t. They don’t even fill their own arena for home games, so it was bound to end sooner rather than later.

          • I’ve gone twice in the past 4 years and it wasn’t pretty empty. It was about half full or more both times, bearing in mind that the Xcel seats 18,000+.

          • For sure. Those goof fans barely can spell tickets. Number one in overall attendance at UND. Number two is for Choke artists! #sellingoutandwinningnattys!

          • True — but North Dakota will be starting the North Stool Cup as soon we can find some in state opponents. Should be a good time and we all know how well UND travels.

          • UND believes that every team in college hockey should have a tournament that represents its fan base — this will be ours. Believe that, Roman!

          • Nothing but polkas playing here in the flatland buddy….Love me some Frankie Yankovic and his ever famous “We Used To Be Sue But Had To Change Our Name Polka”

          • i heard the school for the blind or maybe some pee wee team said they would play UND but they would probably LOSE UND that is

          • Nice try. It was an agreement reached by all five of the schools. They preferred more campus games instead of playing at the Xcel Center every year. You can spin it however you want, doesn’t make it the truth.

          • How did you not catch the sarcasm in the remark? It was thicker than fat people at the state fair.

          • And to be fair…..Goof U’s record against in-state opponents over the past few seasons is brutal….

          • 3-19 their last 22 games over a span of 3 seasons to be exact. Maybe the Gophers don’t want the North Star Cup anymore because they can’t win?

        • I actually just read that the North Star Cup will be discontinued after this season. Maybe Minnesota is sick of losing to their in-state opponents all the time.

          • I’m sure they are but, those other schools want to host MN. They make more money off hosting MN then they do splitting the little profits from the NSCC.

          • No one goes. Place is always pretty empty. It was expected that Goof fans would show up but they don’t. They don’t even fill their own arena for home games, so it was bound to end sooner rather than later.

          • The only thing that surprises me is that the Fighting Sioux Hawks fans don’t come to games — they flock to hockey games like it was a stray sheep in the field.

          • I’ve gone twice in the past 4 years and it wasn’t pretty empty. It was about half full or more both times, bearing in mind that the Xcel seats 18,000+.

          • For sure. Those goof fans barely can spell tickets. Number one in overall attendance at UND. Number two is for Choke artists! #sellingoutandwinningnattys!

          • True — but North Dakota will be starting the North Stool Cup as soon we can find some in state opponents. Should be a good time and we all know how well UND travels.

          • UND believes that every team in college hockey should have a tournament that represents its fan base — this will be ours. Believe that, Roman!

          • Nothing but polkas playing here in the flatland buddy….Love me some Frankie Yankovic and his ever famous “We Used To Be Sue But Had To Change Our Name Polka”

          • i heard the school for the blind or maybe some pee wee team said they would play UND but they would probably LOSE UND that is

          • Nice try. It was an agreement reached by all five of the schools. They preferred more campus games instead of playing at the Xcel Center every year. You can spin it however you want, doesn’t make it the truth.

          • And to be fair…..Goof U’s record against in-state opponents over the past few seasons is brutal….

          • 3-19 their last 22 games over a span of 3 seasons to be exact. Maybe the Gophers don’t want the North Star Cup anymore because they can’t win?

  21. The west regional just got REALLY interesting. I think Omaha and/or St Cloud could also sneak in as they are both pretty close to an at-large bid.

  22. The west regional just got REALLY interesting. I think Omaha and/or St Cloud could also sneak in as they are both pretty close to an at-large bid.

  23. Why move Minnesota when Fargo is already sold out? I realize these projections change every week, but the NCAA should try and help attendance in the other three sites (which ticket sales are slow)

    • …you mean like moving the Buckeyes to Cincy? I know, that’s not what Moy was saying, but if that doesn’t help attendance there, nothing will.

  24. Why move Minnesota when Fargo is already sold out? I realize these projections change every week, but the NCAA should try and help attendance in the other three sites (which ticket sales are slow)

    • …you mean like moving the Buckeyes to Cincy? I know, that’s not what Moy was saying, but if that doesn’t help attendance there, nothing will.

  25. “One change we can make it swapping Bemidji State and Canisius, putting both of them closer to its campuses. Some will balk and say that the PWR difference is large (24 vs 33), but is it that much? I am willing to say that it’s negligible versus the attendance and close to campus factor.”

    Average attendance:
    Bemidji—-2,700 (62% of capacity)
    Canisius–1,080 (60% of capacity)…..this affects the attendance factor?

    ….so just the close to campus factor. A factor that would screw UMD.(Rather face Williams than Bitzer)

    • Yea I agree on that one. When you get that far down in PWR I think there isn’t much of a difference. I understand what they try to do but in the end I think a lot of the players would much rather play in a building that is packed as opposed to crickets.

  26. “One change we can make it swapping Bemidji State and Canisius, putting both of them closer to its campuses. Some will balk and say that the PWR difference is large (24 vs 33), but is it that much? I am willing to say that it’s negligible versus the attendance and close to campus factor.”

    Average attendance:
    Bemidji—-2,700 (62% of capacity)
    Canisius–1,080 (60% of capacity)…..this affects the attendance factor?

    ….so just the close to campus factor. A factor that would screw UMD.(Rather face Williams than Bitzer)

    • Yea I agree on that one. When you get that far down in PWR I think there isn’t much of a difference. I understand what they try to do but in the end I think a lot of the players would much rather play in a building that is packed as opposed to crickets.

  27. There is no doubt the North Dakota Fighting Sioux Hawks should be a number seed based on the teams we’ve lost to this year. Have you seen our strength of schedule — we’ve lost to some really good teams, plus we’ve got the Winnebago factor — we’ll roll into town just like Cousin Eddie wearing a new pair of white shoes. Real special!

    • whoever you root for, you guys gotta admit some of this is pretty funny. “based on the teams we’ve lost to this year”, lol

  28. There is no doubt the North Dakota Fighting Sioux Hawks should be a number seed based on the teams we’ve lost to this year. Have you seen our strength of schedule — we’ve lost to some really good teams, plus we’ve got the Winnebago factor — we’ll roll into town just like Cousin Eddie wearing a new pair of white shoes. Real special!

    • whoever you root for, you guys gotta admit some of this is pretty funny. “based on the teams we’ve lost to this year”, lol

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