Simon Fraser, Minot State making cases to join Division I lineup?

Penn State entered the Division I ranks in 2012-13, starting its fifth season as a varsity program in 2016-17 (photo: Jim Rosvold).

Arizona State became the 60th current school to ice an NCAA Division I men’s hockey program last season.

Others could possibly be on the way, but there’s a lot to be done before that can happen.

Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, British Columbia, became the first Canadian/international school to gain membership in the NCAA five years ago. It offers 14 varsity sports in all, but surprisingly, hockey is not one of them, although that could change.

Another potential Division I hockey tryout for a new school could come this fall, as Simon Fraser is scheduled to play exhibition games against northwest “neighbors” Alaska-Anchorage and Alaska (Fairbanks), plus two games at Arizona State.

The Clan has also played against other NCAA opponents in the past besides the Alaska schools, such as Holy Cross, Miami, Northeastern and Princeton. SFU even stretched visiting North Dakota to the limit before falling 4-3 in Jan. 2014.

sfuIn April of this year, SFU revealed that it had hired an independent consulting firm for the purposes of researching a potential business model that would support both NCAA hockey and sand (beach) volleyball programs at the school. The report was expected to reach completion in six months.

“The consultant is helping us determine the expenses and revenue opportunities associated with hockey and sand volleyball for our market,” Simon Fraser senior director of athletics and recreation Theresa Hanson said in a statement. “At the same time, we are reviewing our current organizational structure and budget model and developing a business plan that will address the gaps and help us move forward in a positive and sustainable way”.

In almost all its other intercollegiate sports, SFU competes in NCAA Division II as a member of the Great Northwest Athletic Conference (GNAC), which does not sponsor hockey.

No matter.

“Canada versus the United States has worked at all levels of international hockey, and we want to understand what that would look like from a business perspective at the collegiate hockey level,” added Hanson. “If these programs work from a business perspective, then I believe these two initiatives have the potential to strengthen Simon Fraser’s reputation and add prestige to the university, enable us to continue to recruit the best student-athletes and the best faculty, and will immeasurably strengthen campus life.”

SFU director of hockey operations Chris Munshaw could not comment officially on behalf of the athletics department when asked this summer about the possibility of the club team moving up to NCAA Division I. As one could guess, however, hockey would be a natural candidate to become a varsity sport in Western Canada.

“BC is such a hockey-crazed market and with SFU being Canada’s only NCAA member, it’s been a popular debate from day one in and around the school,” he said in July.

The Clan would likely continue to play in Bill Copeland Arena in Burnaby, at least for the first few years of varsity status, if not beyond.

“It has been a first-class facility for us for the past six years,” said Munshaw.

It’s not like the possibility of college hockey programs upgrading from the club level to NCAA Division I hasn’t been accomplished before. The overriding factor, of course, is money—and obviously not everyone has a Terry Pegula who can donate $102 million of his own money to not only fund hockey scholarships at Penn State, but also house NCAA programs in a new, state-of-the-art, on-campus rink.

Not everyone is Arizona State, either, which got $32 million out of the blue to upgrade from club status to the big time, even with permanent home rink questions still dogging the Sun Devils.

Minot State University in North Dakota could be another candidate to one day go Division I.

minotOperative term — could be.

“We really haven’t had any major discussions on the move,” said outgoing Minot State athletic director Rick Hedberg, who is transitioning to the position of VP for advancement, earlier this summer. “A local sports reporter ran an article this spring on the possibility of adding ice hockey that got a lot of people talking, but we haven’t had any discussions on campus.

“There are no plans to add ice hockey.”

Compounding the possibility of adding Division I hockey would be that all varsity athletic programs at Minot State would also need to be elevated to the NCAA Division I level.

“From what the NCAA has told us, we would need to move all programs to Division I,” explained Hedberg. “As you know, there is no Division II ice hockey championship. The D-II schools that had ice hockey prior to 2010 are grandfathered. We obviously wouldn’t qualify there, thus the need to move all teams to D-I.”

The NCAA Division II men’s hockey championship ended in the late 1990s, forcing schools like Alabama-Huntsville and Bemidji State to go up to Division I.

Money, of course, would also be a factor, and is seemingly in short supply in higher education today. That includes in Alaska, where either the Alaska Nanooks or UAA Seawolves, or even both teams, could potentially cease to exist if budget cuts there run deeply enough to warrant eliminating college hockey in the 49th State altogether.

“Our state is currently looking at cutting budgets, and this will definitely affect higher ed,” said Hedberg, who wouldn’t speculate on if the 3,900-seat All Seasons Arena would remain the home of Minot State hockey if the program(s) went varsity.

There have been stops and starts in the past, elsewhere, before Penn State and Arizona State joined the NCAA Division I roster in the last few years.

Minnesota State-Moorhead considering upgrading its hockey program to Division I in 2012, but couldn’t meet a self-imposed deadline for obtaining a $37 million endowment from private sources.

Kennesaw State, about 20 miles north of Atlanta, toyed with the idea of joining Alabama-Huntsville as the second NCAA Division I hockey program in the Deep South just over a decade ago, but that idea apparently didn’t go anywhere.

Other Division I men’s hockey programs have gotten started and given it a go for a while over the last 50 years, only to ultimately turn out the lights. That list includes Fairfield, Findlay, Illinois-Chicago, Iona, Kent, Northern Arizona, U.S. International and Wayne State.

There are other, larger schools that could potentially one day go Division I on ice, such as Big Ten members Nebraska and Iowa, which have built or are building new ice-centric facilities. The possibility hasn’t been publicly discussed at Nebraska, which opened the John Breslow Ice Hockey Center in December, although the $11 million rink only seats 700 spectators.

Iowa officials have stated that the school is trying to keep its current athletic lineup healthy, despite the fact that a new 6,000-seat arena is scheduled to be built in Coralville, just a few miles from the Iowa City campus, in a state already well-known for junior hockey.

“I grew up in Minnesota,” said Iowa athletics director Gary Barta to The Gazette in Cedar Rapids in June. “I played hockey, I love hockey. I really do. We had a terrific year, things are getting better. But until all of our sports are at a level where I want them, it would dilute if we added sports. If we add men’s hockey, we’re going to add women’s hockey, so really you’re talking about adding two sports, so there’s a lot involved.”

43 COMMENTS

  1. 2010-100 killed future playups, but the NCAA could easily change D1 championship to a National Collegiate Championship (D1 & D2) similar to the women

    IIRC, there is a current by-law that permits a currently classified D2 school to play in the D1 tournament if D2 does not sponsor a championship in that sport (ie ice hockey). Minot State would not have to reclassify to D1.

    • I hadn’t heard about that but as a UMass Lowell alum, that’s disappointing. I think the “irregular” schools are a feature to Division 1 varsity hockey

  2. 2010-100 killed future playups, but the NCAA could easily change D1 championship to a National Collegiate Championship (D1 & D2) similar to the women

    IIRC, there is a current by-law that permits a currently classified D2 school to play in the D1 tournament if D2 does not sponsor a championship in that sport (ie ice hockey). Minot State would not have to reclassify to D1.

    • I hadn’t heard about that but as a UMass Lowell alum, that’s disappointing. I think the “irregular” schools are a feature to Division 1 varsity hockey

  3. 2010-100 killed future playups, but the NCAA could easily change D1 championship to a National Collegiate Championship (D1 & D2) similar to the women

    IIRC, there is a current by-law that permits a currently classified D2 school to play in the D1 tournament if D2 does not sponsor a championship in that sport (ie ice hockey). Minot State would not have to reclassify to D1.

    • I hadn’t heard about that but as a UMass Lowell alum, that’s disappointing. I think the “irregular” schools are a feature to Division 1 varsity hockey

  4. I really think it’s only a matter of time until B1G schools jump into hockey. Not all, but many. Those are big schools with money. I didn’t even know there was a Minot State, and probably outside of the Dakotas, not many people do, so I can see that being a challenge there.

    Once the B1G get hockey, I think in the next 20 years, with ASU already having it (if they can be moderately successful), they will be trying to get other PAC schools to join them.

    • Minot State might have a shot financially when oil goes back up to $110/brl. What about the U of Manitoba? UND plays exhibition games with them every year.

      • I think a lot of schools do tune ups with canadian college teams. New Brunswick, St. Francis-Xavier, Acadia, and Dalhousie regularly come down for pre-season scrimmages with Hockey East. They added PEI, Carlton (ONT), and Concordia to the slate this year. Not sure that means they want to be NCAA schools, as opposed to the CIS. And these schools are all fairly small, with only Dalhousie having an enrollment comparable to something like UNH.

        • Yea, I really have no idea how Canadian schools operate. I know playing college hockey in CA is considered a step down from major/minor Jr hockey. However, I simply mentioned Manitoba because it is a large school (I think they have nearly 30,000 students) and they play reasonable hockey. I wonder if the “status” of CA college hockey would change if some of their schools started to participate in the US college hockey system? Would there be a bigger draw for top talent at SFU and Manitoba, for example, if they joined the NCHC or WCHA? Maybe not…just throwing out commentary really…??
          Btw, I had to look up what Cromulent meant…..nice touch.

        • If we wanted to get a quality Canadian team, try adding University of Alberta. The Golden Bears are one of the best in Canadian college hockey and Have beaten US teams before in exhibition.

      • Like most other schools/conferences. Those are the money sports. The other major conferences only really care about football and basketball, and because they are so big, they are often still very good or competitive in things like soccer, baseball, and olympic sports. If hockey isn’t too much of a financial drain on an athletic department, and they can work the Title IX side of things out, I think they would do it. Anything to increase “the brand.” Besides, they are well positioned to jump into hockey from a recruiting standpoint.

        • You are still forgetting that the clump 6 conference isn’t doing anything to increase their “brand” in college hockey. Their tv network wont even put games on before December. They’d rather have everyone watch a replay of the 1985 rose bowl.

    • I doubt it, schools in Illinois and Iowa schools have gone out of there way to state that they have no interest in adding hockey, at all. The same can for the Indiana schools, hockey has never really been big in Indiana to begin with. I know people have talked about Nebraska adding hockey, but this is highly unlikely as the agreement made between Nebraska and Omaha was that Omaha would drop its Division 1 FCS football program, in return Nebraska would not add Men’s hockey. If Nebraska goes back on the agreement then UNO will restart their football program. The only school in the Bigten that MAY have an interest in hockey would be Rutgers. But the BigTen may actually be a bigger roadblock to adding hockey than a helper. If Rutgers were able to join one of the east coast leagues it would likely be a easy sell. But when the majority of your road games would require flights to the Midwest then the sell is a lot harder. Add into that a steady decline in performance by traditional powers like Minnesota and Wisconsin, and declining fan interest and the Big10’s future is pretty bleak. What may have to happen is that Bigten hockey will need to split from the bigten conference as a quasi independent leauge. This way they can more easily add non bigten members. Think Missouri Valley Conference vs Missouri Valley Football Conference. Though I doubt this will happen as the Big10 would be to proud and arrogant to admit that forming the Bigten hockey conference was short sighted decision.

      • “I know people have talked about Nebraska adding hockey, but this is highly unlikely as the agreement made between Nebraska and Omaha was that Omaha would drop its Division 1 FCS football program, in return Nebraska would not add Men’s hockey.”

        This is a complete and utter falsehood. You must live in some alternate universe.

        I have personally spoken to Trev Alberts at UNO as well as others within the UNO Athletic Department, like Mike Amundsen and Mike Kemp, for example, on more than one occasion (I am a donor and One Fund member), and no such quid pro quo exists. Not only does it not exist, they deny any such thing EVER even having been discussed.

        The notion that UNO might restart it’s football program is ludicrously ridiculous in any event since UNO no longer has a stadium to even play football in any more, even if they wanted to. And, let us not forget UNO is now Division 1 across the board.

        UNO disbanded football (and wrestling) for economic reasons, They couldn’t even afford Division II football (63 scholarship max.), much less D-1 (85 scholarship max.).

        UNO would welcome with open arms any attempt by Nebraska to go hockey D-1. It would provide a built-in rival for each right off the bat–only 50 miles away–and, in another conference that desperately needs another member. Nebraska already has the facilities (despite what this article says, the Breslow Center would be NU’s practice facility–games would be played in Pinnacle Bank Arena–right next door) and the bigger question down there is, and has been, the effect of doing this on the Lincoln Stars of the USHL. Lincoln is a metro of about 300,000 people. Supporting a Husker program AND the Stars may be asking a lot of city that size. There are just so many hockey dollars and a NU hockey program would cause mass loyalty defections.

        No school in the United States is better prepared to go D-1 than Nebraska is as I write these words. Name me another school without D-1 hockey that has the facility to play in as well as the practice facilities, ??????? ?? ?????, on campus, anywhere else in the U.S. These are two giant, and I mean GIANT pieces of the puzzle for any school even dreaming about this. They are in a better spot than ASU, really, (from today’s vantage point) and all NU currently has is a club team.

        Hockey at Nebraska is a when, not an if. The money is not an issue there. The biggest obstacle is Title IX and what 18 women’s scholarships would they endow. The best guess has been a women’s team (which COULD play in the Breslow Center) and I have also heard discussion about Field Hockey but, that is only 12 possible scholarships and Nebraska, like most schools, is already upside down on head count scholarships and equivalency scholarships, men versus women.

        • “UNO would welcome with open arms any attempt by Nebraska to go hockey D-1.” Yes the school that is treated like a second class citizen in terms of state funding largely due to lobbying power by the larger school to the south is going to welcome Nebraska moving into the one area where it has a unique edge, just so it can have one “rivalry” series a year. I doubt it, Hockey is UNO’s big money maker and the last thing they want is Husker hockey. Also if the athletic director at Nebraska,Shawn Eichorst, is to be believed, the Nebraska isn’t really interested adding hockey anyways. The club team had to drive North an our to Omaha to play games until 2014, and their current arena, Breslow Center, can barley accommodate a high school sized crowd.This means they would Either need to use a basketball arena, which I am sure Husker basketball would love, and have hockey continue day to day operations out of the Breslow Center, or build a whole new venue. Even if they can rectify all that they would still have show there is interest in hockey at Nebraska. All the articles I can find about hockey at Nebraska are 2-3 years old and are just blogs, no major sports or administrations statements about hockey, other than to say no. Hockey at Nebraska is most definitely an if, and a big if.

          The Next school to add hockey WILL be UNLV, they have facilities, their is high student and community interest, and they have an on campus facility which could be used dual purpose facility for basketball and hockey, or they could move into the the home of the City’s former ECHL squad which folded back in 2014, the Arena is just 5 mins from campus and is purpose built for hockey.

          In any case I doubt Husker hockey will happen soon enough to make any change in BG10 hockey. Also I have yet to find a fan outside Penn state, who actually thinks the League was good Idea.

          Also as to your comment about a potential women’s team, which would be just as expensive as men’s team, They wouldn’t be playing at Breslow Center, its too small for d1 women’s hockey.

          • I think you are too dissociated with the somewhat complex situation here to really understand it for what it is and what is really going on.

            Be advised that the University of Nebraska receives ZERO dollars of state funding for athletics, for starters. None. One of only 7 NCAA D-1 schools that receives no state subsidies. UNO isn’t “losing out” at funding lobbying down in the statehouse. Nebraska receives no such funding to be outlobbying UNO for.

            And, clearly you don’t understand that the UNO and UNL are part of the same University system. They aren’t financial rivals. The NU Foundation serves the needs of both institutions.

            Further UNO’s Athletic Department lost money last year, a whole ‘nother topic as it relates to this discourse:

            http://arenadigest.com/2016/09/06/baxter-arena-finishes-first-year-with-deficit/

            Yes, Shawn Eichorst has publicly alluded to hockey not being on the horizon. More than once, even.

            The reality of that is that it is not, and, will not be his call to make. That decision will be totally driven by the desires of boosters (who drive the Regents here) and, to some degree, the NU Foundation. If the right people want hockey at UNL, and, enough of them, it is going to happen. It is not and never will be his call no matter what he says, publicly. The tail DOES wag the dog at Nebraska. And, what really got that dialogue going around here was UNO’s Frozen Four appearance and the amount of hockey-envy that all of a sudden appeared, subsequently.

            I also don’t think it impossible that the Big10, itself, might push Nebraska to do this since NU has the facilities already in place and the money for endowing the necessary scholarships (men and women) are not a financial issue of big significance. The Big 10 NEEDS another team.

            Why do you suppose that the NU Foundation, at the very last minute of Pinnacle Bank Arena construction, sprang for most of the accoutrements needed to make ice there and had them installed? Something that was NOT in the original building plans or budget.

            For the hell of it?

            The Breslow Center was expressly designed and built to be expanded. The size of that facility, right now, isn’t much of an impediment since the basic structure and the surrounding infrastructure now already exist. If Nebraska adds men’s AND women’s hockey, the women would have to also play at PBA or Breslow would have to be expanded a bit. Both would be a lot of added event nights for an already busy PBA.

            UNLV? They have yet to find the source for the at least 20 million they publicly say it will take to get this out of idea stage. No way will it work sharing a facility with someone else unless THEY control ALL the revenue streams in the building.

  5. I really think it’s only a matter of time until B1G schools jump into hockey. Not all, but many. Those are big schools with money. I didn’t even know there was a Minot State, and probably outside of the Dakotas, not many people do, so I can see that being a challenge there.

    Once the B1G get hockey, I think in the next 20 years, with ASU already having it (if they can be moderately successful), they will be trying to get other PAC schools to join them.

    • Minot State might have a shot financially when oil goes back up to $110/brl. What about the U of Manitoba? UND plays exhibition games with them every year.

      • I think a lot of schools do tune ups with canadian college teams. New Brunswick, St. Francis-Xavier, Acadia, and Dalhousie regularly come down for pre-season scrimmages with Hockey East. They added PEI, Carlton (ONT), and Concordia to the slate this year. Not sure that means they want to be NCAA schools, as opposed to the CIS. And these schools are all fairly small, with only Dalhousie having an enrollment comparable to something like UNH.

        • Yea, I really have no idea how Canadian schools operate. I know playing college hockey in CA is considered a step down from major/minor Jr hockey. However, I simply mentioned Manitoba because it is a large school (I think they have nearly 30,000 students) and they play reasonable hockey. I wonder if the “status” of CA college hockey would change if some of their schools started to participate in the US college hockey system? Would there be a bigger draw for top talent at SFU and Manitoba, for example, if they joined the NCHC or WCHA? Maybe not…just throwing out commentary really…??
          Btw, I had to look up what Cromulent meant…..nice touch.

        • If we wanted to get a quality Canadian team, try adding University of Alberta. The Golden Bears are one of the best in Canadian college hockey and Have beaten US teams before in exhibition.

      • Like most other schools/conferences. Those are the money sports. The other major conferences only really care about football and basketball, and because they are so big, they are often still very good or competitive in things like soccer, baseball, and olympic sports. If hockey isn’t too much of a financial drain on an athletic department, and they can work the Title IX side of things out, I think they would do it. Anything to increase “the brand.” Besides, they are well positioned to jump into hockey from a recruiting standpoint.

        • You are still forgetting that the clump 6 conference isn’t doing anything to increase their “brand” in college hockey. Their tv network wont even put games on before December. They’d rather have everyone watch a replay of the 1985 rose bowl.

    • I doubt it, schools in Illinois and Iowa schools have gone out of there way to state that they have no interest in adding hockey, at all. The same can for the Indiana schools, hockey has never really been big in Indiana to begin with. I know people have talked about Nebraska adding hockey, but this is highly unlikely as the agreement made between Nebraska and Omaha was that Omaha would drop its Division 1 FCS football program, in return Nebraska would not add Men’s hockey. If Nebraska goes back on the agreement then UNO will restart their football program. The only school in the Bigten that MAY have an interest in hockey would be Rutgers. But the BigTen may actually be a bigger roadblock to adding hockey than a helper. If Rutgers were able to join one of the east coast leagues it would likely be a easy sell. But when the majority of your road games would require flights to the Midwest then the sell is a lot harder. Add into that a steady decline in performance by traditional powers like Minnesota and Wisconsin, and declining fan interest and the Big10’s future is pretty bleak. What may have to happen is that Bigten hockey will need to split from the bigten conference as a quasi independent leauge. This way they can more easily add non bigten members. Think Missouri Valley Conference vs Missouri Valley Football Conference. Though I doubt this will happen as the Big10 would be to proud and arrogant to admit that forming the Bigten hockey conference was short sighted decision.

  6. I really think it’s only a matter of time until B1G schools jump into hockey. Not all, but many. Those are big schools with money. I didn’t even know there was a Minot State, and probably outside of the Dakotas, not many people do, so I can see that being a challenge there.

    Once the B1G get hockey, I think in the next 20 years, with ASU already having it (if they can be moderately successful), they will be trying to get other PAC schools to join them.

    • Minot State might have a shot financially when oil goes back up to $110/brl. What about the U of Manitoba? UND plays exhibition games with them every year.

      • I think a lot of schools do tune ups with canadian college teams. New Brunswick, St. Francis-Xavier, Acadia, and Dalhousie regularly come down for pre-season scrimmages with Hockey East. They added PEI, Carlton (ONT), and Concordia to the slate this year. Not sure that means they want to be NCAA schools, as opposed to the CIS. And these schools are all fairly small, with only Dalhousie having an enrollment comparable to something like UNH.

        • Yea, I really have no idea how Canadian schools operate. I know playing college hockey in CA is considered a step down from major/minor Jr hockey. However, I simply mentioned Manitoba because it is a large school (I think they have nearly 30,000 students) and they play reasonable hockey. I wonder if the “status” of CA college hockey would change if some of their schools started to participate in the US college hockey system? Would there be a bigger draw for top talent at SFU and Manitoba, for example, if they joined the NCHC or WCHA? Maybe not…just throwing out commentary really…??
          Btw, I had to look up what Cromulent meant…..nice touch.

        • If we wanted to get a quality Canadian team, try adding University of Alberta. The Golden Bears are one of the best in Canadian college hockey and Have beaten US teams before in exhibition.

      • Like most other schools/conferences. Those are the money sports. The other major conferences only really care about football and basketball, and because they are so big, they are often still very good or competitive in things like soccer, baseball, and olympic sports. If hockey isn’t too much of a financial drain on an athletic department, and they can work the Title IX side of things out, I think they would do it. Anything to increase “the brand.” Besides, they are well positioned to jump into hockey from a recruiting standpoint.

        • You are still forgetting that the clump 6 conference isn’t doing anything to increase their “brand” in college hockey. Their tv network wont even put games on before December. They’d rather have everyone watch a replay of the 1985 rose bowl.

    • I doubt it, schools in Illinois and Iowa schools have gone out of there way to state that they have no interest in adding hockey, at all. The same can for the Indiana schools, hockey has never really been big in Indiana to begin with. I know people have talked about Nebraska adding hockey, but this is highly unlikely as the agreement made between Nebraska and Omaha was that Omaha would drop its Division 1 FCS football program, in return Nebraska would not add Men’s hockey. If Nebraska goes back on the agreement then UNO will restart their football program. The only school in the Bigten that MAY have an interest in hockey would be Rutgers. But the BigTen may actually be a bigger roadblock to adding hockey than a helper. If Rutgers were able to join one of the east coast leagues it would likely be a easy sell. But when the majority of your road games would require flights to the Midwest then the sell is a lot harder. Add into that a steady decline in performance by traditional powers like Minnesota and Wisconsin, and declining fan interest and the Big10’s future is pretty bleak. What may have to happen is that Bigten hockey will need to split from the bigten conference as a quasi independent leauge. This way they can more easily add non bigten members. Think Missouri Valley Conference vs Missouri Valley Football Conference. Though I doubt this will happen as the Big10 would be to proud and arrogant to admit that forming the Bigten hockey conference was short sighted decision.

  7. “UNO would welcome with open arms any attempt by Nebraska to go hockey D-1.” Yes the school that is treated like a second class citizen in terms of state funding largely due to lobbying power by the larger school to the south is going to welcome Nebraska moving into the one area where it has a unique edge, just so it can have one “rivalry” series a year. I doubt it, Hockey is UNO’s big money maker and the last thing they want is Husker hockey. Also if the athletic director at Nebraska,Shawn Eichorst, is to be believed, the Nebraska isn’t really interested adding hockey anyways. The club team had to drive North an our to Omaha to play games until 2014, and their current arena, Breslow Center, can barley accommodate a high school sized crowd.This means they would Either need to use a basketball arena, which I am sure Husker basketball would love, and have hockey continue day to day operations out of the Breslow Center, or build a whole new venue. Even if they can rectify all that they would still have show there is interest in hockey at Nebraska. All the articles I can find about hockey at Nebraska are 2-3 years old and are just blogs, no major sports or administrations statements about hockey, other than to say no. Hockey at Nebraska is most definitely an if, and a big if.

    The Next school to add hockey WILL be UNLV, they have facilities, their is high student and community interest, and they have an on campus facility which could be used dual purpose facility for basketball and hockey, or they could move into the the home of the City’s former ECHL squad which folded back in 2014, the Arena is just 5 mins from campus and is purpose built for hockey.

    In any case I doubt Husker hockey will happen soon enough to make any change in BG10 hockey. Also I have yet to find a fan outside Penn state, who actually thinks the League was good Idea.

    Also as to your comment about a potential women’s team, which would be just as expensive as men’s team, They wouldn’t be playing at Breslow Center, its too small for d1 women’s hockey.

    • I think you are too dissociated with the somewhat complex situation here to really understand it for what it is and what is really going on.

      Be advised that the University of Nebraska receives ZERO dollars of state funding for athletics, for starters. None. One of only 7 NCAA D-1 schools that receives no state subsidies. UNO isn’t “losing out” at funding lobbying down in the statehouse. Nebraska receives no such funding to be outlobbying UNO for.

      And, clearly you don’t understand that the UNO and UNL are part of the same University system. They aren’t financial rivals. The NU Foundation serves the needs of both institutions.

      Further UNO’s Athletic Department lost money last year, a whole ‘nother topic as it relates to this discourse:

      http://arenadigest.com/2016/09/06/baxter-arena-finishes-first-year-with-deficit/

      Yes, Shawn Eichorst has publicly alluded to hockey not being on the horizon. More than once, even.

      The reality of that is that it is not, and, will not be his call to make. That decision will be totally driven by the desires of boosters (who drive the Regents here) and, to some degree, the NU Foundation. If the right people want hockey at UNL, and, enough of them, it is going to happen. It is not and never will be his call no matter what he says, publicly. The tail DOES wag the dog at Nebraska. And, what really got that dialogue going around here was UNO’s Frozen Four appearance and the amount of hockey-envy that all of a sudden appeared, subsequently.

      I also don’t think it impossible that the Big10, itself, might push Nebraska to do this since NU has the facilities already in place and the money for endowing the necessary scholarships (men and women) are not a financial issue of big significance. The Big 10 NEEDS another team.

      Why do you suppose that the NU Foundation, at the very last minute of Pinnacle Bank Arena construction, sprang for most of the accoutrements needed to make ice there and had them installed? Something that was NOT in the original building plans or budget.

      For the hell of it?

      The Breslow Center was expressly designed and built to be expanded. The size of that facility, right now, isn’t much of an impediment since the basic structure and the surrounding infrastructure now already exist. If Nebraska adds men’s AND women’s hockey, the women would have to also play at PBA or Breslow would have to be expanded a bit. Both would be a lot of added event nights for an already busy PBA.

      UNLV? They have yet to find the source for the at least 20 million they publicly say it will take to get this out of idea stage. No way will it work sharing a facility with someone else unless THEY control ALL the revenue streams in the building.

  8. “UNO would welcome with open arms any attempt by Nebraska to go hockey D-1.” Yes the school that is treated like a second class citizen in terms of state funding largely due to lobbying power by the larger school to the south is going to welcome Nebraska moving into the one area where it has a unique edge, just so it can have one “rivalry” series a year. I doubt it, Hockey is UNO’s big money maker and the last thing they want is Husker hockey. Also if the athletic director at Nebraska,Shawn Eichorst, is to be believed, the Nebraska isn’t really interested adding hockey anyways. The club team had to drive North an our to Omaha to play games until 2014, and their current arena, Breslow Center, can barley accommodate a high school sized crowd.This means they would Either need to use a basketball arena, which I am sure Husker basketball would love, and have hockey continue day to day operations out of the Breslow Center, or build a whole new venue. Even if they can rectify all that they would still have show there is interest in hockey at Nebraska. All the articles I can find about hockey at Nebraska are 2-3 years old and are just blogs, no major sports or administrations statements about hockey, other than to say no. Hockey at Nebraska is most definitely an if, and a big if.

    The Next school to add hockey WILL be UNLV, they have facilities, their is high student and community interest, and they have an on campus facility which could be used dual purpose facility for basketball and hockey, or they could move into the the home of the City’s former ECHL squad which folded back in 2014, the Arena is just 5 mins from campus and is purpose built for hockey.

    In any case I doubt Husker hockey will happen soon enough to make any change in BG10 hockey. Also I have yet to find a fan outside Penn state, who actually thinks the League was good Idea.

    Also as to your comment about a potential women’s team, which would be just as expensive as men’s team, They wouldn’t be playing at Breslow Center, its too small for d1 women’s hockey.

    • I think you are too dissociated with the somewhat complex situation here to really understand it for what it is and what is really going on.

      Be advised that the University of Nebraska receives ZERO dollars of state funding for athletics, for starters. None. One of only 7 NCAA D-1 schools that receives no state subsidies. UNO isn’t “losing out” at funding lobbying down in the statehouse. Nebraska receives no such funding to be outlobbying UNO for.

      And, clearly you don’t understand that the UNO and UNL are part of the same University system. They aren’t financial rivals. The NU Foundation serves the needs of both institutions.

      Further UNO’s Athletic Department lost money last year, a whole ‘nother topic as it relates to this discourse:

      http://arenadigest.com/2016/09/06/baxter-arena-finishes-first-year-with-deficit/

      Yes, Shawn Eichorst has publicly alluded to hockey not being on the horizon. More than once, even.

      The reality of that is that it is not, and, will not be his call to make. That decision will be totally driven by the desires of boosters (who drive the Regents here) and, to some degree, the NU Foundation. If the right people want hockey at UNL, and, enough of them, it is going to happen. It is not and never will be his call no matter what he says, publicly. The tail DOES wag the dog at Nebraska. And, what really got that dialogue going around here was UNO’s Frozen Four appearance and the amount of hockey-envy that all of a sudden appeared, subsequently.

      I also don’t think it impossible that the Big10, itself, might push Nebraska to do this since NU has the facilities already in place and the money for endowing the necessary scholarships (men and women) are not a financial issue of big significance. The Big 10 NEEDS another team.

      Why do you suppose that the NU Foundation, at the very last minute of Pinnacle Bank Arena construction, sprang for most of the accoutrements needed to make ice there and had them installed? Something that was NOT in the original building plans or budget.

      For the hell of it?

      The Breslow Center was expressly designed and built to be expanded. The size of that facility, right now, isn’t much of an impediment since the basic structure and the surrounding infrastructure now already exist. If Nebraska adds men’s AND women’s hockey, the women would have to also play at PBA or Breslow would have to be expanded a bit. Both would be a lot of added event nights for an already busy PBA.

      UNLV? They have yet to find the source for the at least 20 million they publicly say it will take to get this out of idea stage. No way will it work sharing a facility with someone else unless THEY control ALL the revenue streams in the building.

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