Gallery: Denver defeats Minnesota Duluth for national championship

Photos from Denver’s 3-2 victory over Minnesota Duluth in the national championship game on Saturday in Chicago.

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31 COMMENTS

  1. Let’s look at the numbers between Frattin and Miele since Miele is leading the NCAA in scoring.
    Against teams with a RPI of .5000 or greater Frattin has 23 goals, 14 assists for 37 points in 31 games (avg of 1.19/game vs overall avg of 1.38).
    Miele has 12 goals, 19 assists for 31 points in 22 games (avg of 1.41/game vs overall avg of 1.81).
    Miele has a higher average, Frattin has a significant edge in goals and is closer to his season average against better teams.
    The argument that Frattin pads his stats against weaker teams vs. Miele does not hold water.

    If we look at common teams, Frattin and Miele both played Alaska, Maine, Notre Dame, and St. Cloud.
    Frattin 8g, 6a, 14pts in 9 games (1.56/game). Miele 6g, 13a, 19pts in 12 games (1.58/game). Looks pretty equal.

    Overall, Miele has a big edge in assists and Frattin has a big edge in goals. Since goals after all are the measure of success in hockey I
    would say this offsets the fact that Miele leads in pts/game.

    This is not an argument against Miele as I think he is a terrific player and deserving of the the Hobey hat trick.
    I also believe Frattin is equally worthy and has put together a fantastic season and does not deserve the backhanded shot that INCH took at his stats. I expect that from INCH but not from USCHO.

    • “The argument that Frattin pads his stats against weaker teams vs. Miele does not hold water.”

      In four games against Michigan Tech, Frattin had 6 goals (18% of his total) and 6 assists (28% of his total).

      Frattin and Miele are both great players, but they both have feasted on the weaker teams in their respective league. Miele has performed better against the tough teams in Miami’s schedule (statistically speaking), but the winner will most likely be decided by each player’s performance in the tournament.

    • Just another stat to add to this(according to my calculations):

      Miele: 52.31% of his points were scored against teams NOT under consideration

      Frattin: 31.48% of his points were scored against teams NOT under consideration

      • So that just reinforces the point that the award will go to the player who performs better in the playoffs. Frattin may have had more points against TUC’s, but 22% of those points came against one of the worst teams in D1 (according to RPI).

  2. It all boils down to the post season. If Frattin or Miele come up big and lead their team to the Frozen Four, they will have the upper hand. But make no mistake, it is a two horse race.

  3. Frattin has done his work playing on a team with a SOS (6) greater than Miami (13). Frattin accomplished his feats on a stronger team. Frattin’s goals total is much more impressive. On the stats sheet, this is pretty much a draw. Ask yourself 1 question. If you were captain of a team with the first pick in a pick-up game and you had to choose a forward (not goaltender or defense) with your first pick, who would you choose – Frattin or Miele?

    • Going to be an honest Sioux fan… haven’t seen Miele play much this year and couldn’t make the call. Also who is on the team we are playing? Frattin has the advantage against a more physical team hands down… as for a small and quick team im not so sure.

    • I live in Detroit and watch a lot of CCHA hockey. Miele is the real deal. That last sentence in your post is a heck of a question. I think it all depends on what it is you specifically want in a player. I personally think that the 2 best players who have played at UND in the past 15 years were Zach Parise and Jonathan Toews. I think they were both better than Miele or Frattin and neither one of them won a Hobey. It’d be awesome to see Frattin win a Hobey (because I’m a die hard Sioux fan), and I really admire him for getting his “poo in a pile” as they say…but I’m a lot more concerned about the Sioux living up to the expectations in the tourney. Even this weekend at the Final Five doesn’t really matter to me at this point. Unless of course Yale loses. I think Frattin is an absolute beast. I don’t know anyone in college hockey with a better shot than he has. He busts his butt up and down both ends of the ice and will put the hurts on people that want to play a physical game. But I’m sure if you asked him or Miele, they’d both gladly sacrifice a Hobey for a ring.

      • the guy who said that the best sioux players in the past 15 years are Parise and Toews is not a die hard sioux fan the best players are Ryan Duncan Jeff Panzer Jason Blake Zach Parise maybe but no not Toews. Parise only played for 2 years and Toews a year and a half. Your living off what they have done in the NHL not as sioux players. YOU SIR ARE AN IDOIT

    • Thats not the question. Being a good college player doesn’t always translate to being a good pro. Just look at the Heisman winners. The award is about being the best college player. Miele is 5’8″ (in the guide). He was not drafted. He is very small for the pros. Frattin on the other hand is the protypical build.

  4. ConfusedFan – Mike Connolly isn’t even the best player on his team. Well, at least it’s debateable whether he is the best player on his team or not.

      • I’ve seen him play since he was a freshman… great talent, but if you took him off of what I believe is the best line in college hockey he would not fair nearly as well. Their chemistry is absolutely beautiful. Frattin is a workhorse and out skates and overpowers his opponents and has a snipe…. he wins hands down.

  5. Agree – thanks for the article, Elliot.

    The INCH article seems to be almost a retaliation to any UND fans who pointed out that Frattin’s scoring came against overall tougher competition. Not surprising, but disappointing still. Interesting to compare the top 5 in each conference, but let’s face it – conferences are not equal. I can’t speak for Andy Miele but there’s a reason Frattin was chosen convincingly as WCHA Player of the Year. Simply put, he was the player (not line) that nearly every team in the conference feared and focused on shutting down each weekend. I can’t recall how many times opposing coaches commented on him being a ‘man among boys’ out there, and for good reason. Given that, and his speed and physical dominance (and the fact that he wasn’t sitting around collecting garbage goals all year) will hopefully be taken into consideration…

  6. Perhaps the Hobey voters will not be fooled this year and will give it to Cam Atkinson after looking like dopes in 2008 (Gerbe), 2010 (Atkinson), and even a little in 2006 (Collins).

  7. Frattin hands down. Played a tougher schedule than Miele. He could have left to make a lot of money but showed the character to come back without a scholorship, work hard and become the #1 player in the toughest conference.

  8. the guy who said that the best sioux players in the past 15 years are Parise and Toews is not a die hard sioux fan the best players are Ryan Duncan Jeff Panzer Jason Blake Zach Parise yes but no not Toews. Parise only played for 2 years and Toews a year and a half. YOU SIR ARE AN IDOIT

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